T Worthy?
 

A was making a push late in the game to close the gap to four with just less than a minute left in the game.

A1 drives the lane for a layup, gets fouled by B1, and the ball goes in. I report and then grant a timeout to B. As the players were getting to their respective spots following the TO, B1 said as passing by me, just loud enough for me to hear, "That was a weak foul."

As background, B1 reacted with emotion a couple times earlier in the game, but I didn't think it was unsporting.

Would like your opinions whether you would have issue a T to B1 for his comment. Thanks in advance.

Yep, this one is even weaker. Whack!!!

"I can show you a stronger foul. It starts with the letter T." If he ignores you, ignore him. If he gives you a nasty face or comment, show him the stronger foul.

One thing is for sure when you ask if this or that warranted a "T", 99% of the time your going to hear yes. ;)

I wouldn't "whack" this kid just for the comment. I would let him know where I stand on any future comments and that they would be penalized accordingly.

I have had that a few times, and generally I warn the player. Something to the effect of, "I won't be hearing anything from you again." If that doesn't do the trick then . . . whack!

Concur, I would let it go. I usually just say, "That's Enough. Just play the game" and walk away.....to avoid further "issues."

I bet you can make the game better by just talking to him. If it was the louder style of comment, such as when the opponents and/or fans could hear, then you have a different story.

My response, "Yes, it was. Why did you do it?" :D

"Coach, B1 is just one more comment from costing you team a T."

That usually does it. If the coach doesn't handle it, then he's made his bed.

So was it a weak foul?

Sometimes we make mariginal calls and have to face the truth...

So you allow 17 y/o kids to verbally question whether you made a weak call or not?

Depends on how he said it. But if it was a marginal call it was a mraginal call... If we have a good dialogue ir he is a captain I may tell him I'll watch closer... Just because he is 17 does not mean he was wrong and that we are always right.

If it was a weak call that you knew it was weak when you put air in the whistle and the coach or player/captain whoever, says it was a weak call, are you still T'ing him up for that remark? We've all put air in the whistle on a foul, or better yet an anticipated foul, that we wish we didn't. I guess I'm in Kelvin's camp on this.

No, it means he's a player who's purpose is to play the game, not make smart@ss comments to officials.

If a captain has a question and asks in an appropriate manner, that's one thing. But a kid walking by and popping off on his way to the bench?

I don't think so.

The first call might have been weak.That doesn't mean that the <b>second</B> call....the one for the "T"..... is also a weak call. You penalize the act. Period. And the act is a player popping off at you. You decide yourself whether that act is "T"-worthy or not.

As BktBallRef said, any call that we make doesn't subsequently give anybody free rein to dump on us. They pay their money; they takes their chances.

You can do what you want, but I'm not letting a 17 year old kid talk to me any kind of way. I guess that right there would be one of my absolutes.

I'm in the camp that says I don't want smartazh, mouthy kids talking chit to me...

Something I like to say to the players is something like..."Hey, let your coach complain to me about the calls...you'll keep yourself and your team outta trouble...just focus on playing ball, ok?"

Agreed, or as Rut mentioned in another thread, ask the kid to repeat what he said...........giving a chance to back off his comment, if not, I'm whistling.

You know I don't have a problem with how other handle these types of situation. The problem for ME personally is it's inconsistent across the officiating spectrum. That's the problem. In the OP it was stated that it was just loud enough for the two of them to hear no one else. IMO, it's unsporting and needs to be addressed appropriately.

You need to reread BOTH of my posts.

I didn't advocate sticking the kid. I said I would warn the coach that he needed to shut the kid up. if he doesn't, he'd better hope the kid doesn't pop off again.

My comment was regard to Kelvin's suggestion that we consider whether the kid is right or not. Sorry, that's not his job, it's mine. And I may listen to the coach if he has a concern but I'm not listening to a 17 y/o tell me I made a weak call.

Thread Title ???
 

Is the thread title T Worthy, or J Worthy?

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