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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 06:25pm
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So where you were working was near or IN??? that storm we were hearing about??

btw good job on the game!
Juulie,

Yes, Robinson in basically right on the Wabash river on the IL/IN border. I was in Dieterich which is about 40 miles west of Robinson.
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Old Fri Feb 08, 2008, 03:11pm
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How was the St. Anne experience(games, partners, game management,etc.)? I worked my semi at Cissna Park and was replaced for the championship game because one of the finalists is one of my affiliated schools. At St. Anne my other affiliated school would have been in both games I was scheduled to officiate.
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Old Fri Feb 08, 2008, 05:10pm
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M&M:
How was the St. Anne experience(games, partners, game management,etc.)? I worked my semi at Cissna Park and was replaced for the championship game because one of the finalists is one of my affiliated schools. At St. Anne my other affiliated school would have been in both games I was scheduled to officiate.
It went fine; no major problems. Gardner ended up pulling away in the 4th qtr. last night over Donovan, after being close all game. Gardner fans had a tendancy to be a little mouthy, but game management took care of that rather quickly.

The only glitch was after we had a held ball in the 4th qtr., and gave it to Gardner, as per the arrow. As she's dribbling down the court, the Donovan scorekeeper starts yelling that it should be their ball. Of course, their coach starts questioning it as well, so my partner, who's in front of the table, stops play at a good point, and checks with the table. Official scorekeeper (from host school) has white getting the ball to start the quarter, and no other held balls up to that point. The Donovan scorekeeper insists we missed one, so we ask if he had written down the time of the held ball during the 4th quarter. Of course he hadn't, while the official book had written in all times of previous held balls. He calmed down a little after we also reminded him of a play where two players were tied up, I started coming in with the held ball, and my partner came in harder and had a foul first. I believe he thought that was the last held ball.

Host school management was great, hospitality room was good, and there was a pretty good crowd from both schools. All in all, a pretty good night.
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Old Fri Feb 08, 2008, 05:16pm
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It went fine; no major problems. Gardner ended up pulling away in the 4th qtr. last night over Donovan, after being close all game. Gardner fans had a tendancy to be a little mouthy, but game management took care of that rather quickly.

The only glitch was after we had a held ball in the 4th qtr., and gave it to Gardner, as per the arrow. As she's dribbling down the court, the Donovan scorekeeper starts yelling that it should be their ball. Of course, their coach starts questioning it as well, so my partner, who's in front of the table, stops play at a good point, and checks with the table. Official scorekeeper (from host school) has white getting the ball to start the quarter, and no other held balls up to that point. The Donovan scorekeeper insists we missed one, so we ask if he had written down the time of the held ball during the 4th quarter. Of course he hadn't, while the official book had written in all times of previous held balls. He calmed down a little after we also reminded him of a play where two players were tied up, I started coming in with the held ball, and my partner came in harder and had a foul first. I believe he thought that was the last held ball.

Host school management was great, hospitality room was good, and there was a pretty good crowd from both schools. All in all, a pretty good night.
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Old Fri Feb 08, 2008, 05:32pm
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I didn't think you could do that !
In most cases we would've addressed it at the next dead ball. But, it wasn't the coach or the bench causing the ruckus, it was the team's scorekeeper. It was becoming enough of a distraction to the table and us that it needed to be handled. My partner found a spot when the other team was not advancing the ball, blew it dead, pointed to the spot where it would be taken out, and called me over so we could both take care of this at the table. Part of the issue was the "official table" was not big enough to hold everyone (official book, clock and scoreboard operator, home and visitor's books), so this guy was sitting one row back and over a little at another small table. I guess he thought he was trying to help his team out with a correction, and because of the slight distance he was becoming a little louder than necessary.

We talked about that afterwards, and agreed if this was the coach or someone on the bench asking, this would have cost the team a TO after we got to the next dead ball. But, because of the distraction, we took care of it immediately without directly affecting play.
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Old Fri Feb 08, 2008, 09:04pm
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In most cases we would've addressed it at the next dead ball. But, it wasn't the coach or the bench causing the ruckus, it was the team's scorekeeper. It was becoming enough of a distraction to the table and us that it needed to be handled. My partner found a spot when the other team was not advancing the ball, blew it dead, pointed to the spot where it would be taken out, and called me over so we could both take care of this at the table. Part of the issue was the "official table" was not big enough to hold everyone (official book, clock and scoreboard operator, home and visitor's books), so this guy was sitting one row back and over a little at another small table. I guess he thought he was trying to help his team out with a correction, and because of the slight distance he was becoming a little louder than necessary.

We talked about that afterwards, and agreed if this was the coach or someone on the bench asking, this would have cost the team a TO after we got to the next dead ball. But, because of the distraction, we took care of it immediately without directly affecting play.
But, regardless, after the throw-in, we cannot undo it can we?
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Old Sat Feb 09, 2008, 10:27am
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But, regardless, after the throw-in, we cannot undo it can we?
Oh, ok, that's what you meant; I thought you were saying we couldn't stop play to check.

Yes, that was in the back of my mind as we were going over to the table to check. I just wanted to collect all the facts first before coming to any conclusions, and it turned out the official book was correct after all.
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Run by and tell Scorekeeper, :"Quiet. Next dead ball...."
He was pretty insistent, and was becoming a distraction, so we had to address it right then.
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