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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 01:38pm
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I prefer the direct approach with coaches I'm familiar with.

"If you yell across the court again, you will receive a technical foul."

Why would you use a phrase like, "it'll cost ya."?
Ok...the cynic in me says ...What if he yells across the court for a timeout... I know you'd not do that Rich....

I'm not gonna say "it'll cost ya" just not for me...
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 01:41pm
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colt -- thank you and good point. I guess I will work on adjusting my warning.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 01:44pm
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There is a difference between a player saying that he doesn't agree with a call... and saying that you are the reason they are losing. By saying that he is questioning your integrity and yes.. he should be T'd up for that immediatly without warning.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 02:07pm
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Even though I was not there, I probably would have asked the player to repeat what they said. If they did not repeat what they said, then I would just let them know directly that "you might not want to go down that road with me." I would either tell the coach that he needs to take care of X player or I will, or if I did not have a chance to talk to the coach, I would just put that in my little back pocket and the next time player X does not get another chance.

It is really hard to say what I would do if no one heard the comments because if the kid was a jag off earlier in the game that would be easy. If that was the first time he said anything, I might handle it differently. I want to avoid a T anytime I can. But sometimes people put you into a situation that you have little choice.

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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 03:37pm
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I think that when dealing with a verbal excahnge, it is fair to give them a chance to retract or just shut up. I had a situation on Saturday where I had just called a travelling violation on a kid. I then ended up right in front of their bench and one of the ASSistant coaches wants to talk about why that wasn't a travel. I said, "Coach, he travelled, and I'm not going to discuss it with you." He kept yapping, and I said, "Alan (who is the HC) you need to get your bench under control." AC looks at me and says, "I'm not out of control." WHACK!!
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 06:26pm
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Even though I was not there, I probably would have asked the player to repeat what they said. If they did not repeat what they said, then I would just let them know directly that "you might not want to go down that road with me." I would either tell the coach that he needs to take care of X player or I will, or if I did not have a chance to talk to the coach, I would just put that in my little back pocket and the next time player X does not get another chance.

It is really hard to say what I would do if no one heard the comments because if the kid was a jag off earlier in the game that would be easy. If that was the first time he said anything, I might handle it differently. I want to avoid a T anytime I can. But sometimes people put you into a situation that you have little choice.

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Jeff...............that's an excellent way to handle it in my view. Hopefully I won't have to use it.

It's very hard to make a judgement call on these situations that we read in print only, much depends on the attitude, inflection, body language, all of the usual stuff.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 07:05pm
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a couple of alternate ideas

Here are some things that have worked for me and others I know of:

1) If the player says something in a tight game and has been a good citizen for the most part. After the foul is reported, walk by the player and tell them "this is a good game, you don't want to hurt your team now." This has worked effectively.

2) If the player doesn't quite get it, then the next contact could definitely result in a foul on the player. Maybe they will get the message then.

3) Let the coach know that the player is on the edge of hurting the team, then let the coach deal with it.

4) Next time you have that player, just remind them that we are not going to have a repeat of the last game, because they were given the benefit of a doubt the last time.

If you T that is your choice, but these are just a couple of ideas that might also be effective for you in other situations.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 07:09pm
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Here are some things that have worked for me and others I know of:

1) If the player says something in a tight game and has been a good citizen for the most part. After the foul is reported, walk by the player and tell them "this is a good game, you don't want to hurt your team now." This has worked effectively.

2) If the player doesn't quite get it, then the next contact could definitely result in a foul on the player. Maybe they will get the message then.

3) Let the coach know that the player is on the edge of hurting the team, then let the coach deal with it.

4) Next time you have that player, just remind them that we are not going to have a repeat of the last game, because they were given the benefit of a doubt the last time.

If you T that is your choice, but these are just a couple of ideas that might also be effective for you in other situations.
So in other words you are going to do everything you can to avoid dealing with the issue to include calling the next contact a foul where you otherwise would pass. Maybe you should change your name to icallbs.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 08:52pm
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So in other words you are going to do everything you can to avoid dealing with the issue to include calling the next contact a foul where you otherwise would pass. Maybe you should change your name to icallbs.
maybe not the next contact foul... but I would say I am going to do everything I can to PREVENT it.... or make sure he earned it
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 08:29pm
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Question Integrity ???

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There is a difference between a player saying that he doesn't agree with a call and saying that you are the reason they are losing. By saying that he is questioning your integrity and yes, he should be T'd up for that immediatly without warning.
Amen.
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