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It's very hard to make a judgement call on these situations that we read in print only, much depends on the attitude, inflection, body language, all of the usual stuff. |
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I will give you an example. I told a kid during a X-Mas Tournament this past season that the actions between him and the other player might result in a technical foul if they decided to keep the holding and pushing that took place before I handed the thrower the ball. To make a long story short, the kid went back and said this to the coach. Then the coach tried to confront me after the game near the hospitality room and went to the tournament director to complain about me. Of course I had a very understanding group of individuals and nothing was a problem, but I have seen situations where it would be. And whether you like it or not if someone feels you did the wrong thing or took actions unwarranted in your hands, then you might get barred from the league you work (I have seen this happen to people) or not get post season assignments. Now all I said was to dot your "I" and cross your "T" so that when you do give a T, it is harder to question your judgment or your motives. And if this discussion has not taught you anything, then you better realize that everyone is not supporting your actions 100%. And if you get the wrong assignor or evaluator that says you are wrong, then you might suffer some consequences far beyond this game. My main point is you should protect yourself as much as you possibly can. Peace |
a couple of alternate ideas
Here are some things that have worked for me and others I know of:
1) If the player says something in a tight game and has been a good citizen for the most part. After the foul is reported, walk by the player and tell them "this is a good game, you don't want to hurt your team now." This has worked effectively. 2) If the player doesn't quite get it, then the next contact could definitely result in a foul on the player. Maybe they will get the message then. 3) Let the coach know that the player is on the edge of hurting the team, then let the coach deal with it. 4) Next time you have that player, just remind them that we are not going to have a repeat of the last game, because they were given the benefit of a doubt the last time. If you T that is your choice, but these are just a couple of ideas that might also be effective for you in other situations. |
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My problem is that none of these terms are defined in any rule book that I know of. NFHS rules have a single rule, I believe the longest section in the book, Rule 4, on definitions. The NFHS has a reason for this long section. I wish that league adminsitrators would realize how difficult it is for officials to enforce rules where certain terms are not well defined. |
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And there's no misunderstanding that the coach has been warned. Another ditty to add to the game report, if it comes to that. |
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No Brainer...Whack the kid. Players get 0 tolerance when unsportingly addressing officials, in my games. In fact, 0 tolerance when unsportingly addressing anyone.... example: Short Version: I whacked a kid for taunting a player last night. Long Version: Last night I was part of a 3 person crew officiating a Martin Luther King Jr Day H.S. Varsity tournament. Late in a 20 point blow-out...B1, that was winning, was guarding A1 as A1 was dribbling up the floor. I'm Trail with the two players. B1 started saying something like, "I'm going to strip you boy"...then B1 steals the ball and starts dribbling towards his basket as he says, "see I got ya"! All this takes place in less than 2 seconds. I blow my whistle and Whack B1 right after he stole the ball from A1. The crowd and Coach initially think I call a foul on the clean steal. (I probably could have slowed down my "T" sign after I blew the whistle...and held it a little longer) No one heard the kid taunting the other player. But, I did...so he got whacked. I said to the table, in a loud voice..."Unsporting behavior, taunting on blue 5". One of my partners came over and asked if I wanted to administer the FT's...I said no, I wanted to talk to the Coach. The Coach was standing in his box as I approached. I told him what happened...and he said, "We don't need that, and the sub for him is at the table". I said, "Great"...and away we went. We finished the game uneventful. Moral of the story: Don't be afraid to issue warranted T's...just come up with a sound philosophy on what warrants the T. |
I'm jumping in on this late. It sounds like a solid T to me, no matter what the score or time happens to be. He used the magic word of "you". As far as the baiting conversation, I try to use, "Ok coach, you've had your say, you need to let it go now." and walk away.
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The latest time: I had to walk down the other end of the court to defuse a situation where my (less experienced) partner was allowing too much cross-court yelling to happen (on an out of bounds call the coach could not possibly see, no less). I wasn't going to whack the coach from 70 feet away on the other side of the court, but I wasn't going to allow the situation to continue. I used the words "technical foul" when talking to him and realized he may say something unkind back I would have to let go considering I went all the way TO him which looked aggressive on my part to begin with. But the NEXT one where he YELLED would, indeed, be handled with a T. I promised him that. As I said to my partner that night (who is a first year varsity official), it will get easier to handle these kind of things once you whack a few coaches who have it coming (and probably some who don't). |
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