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Old Fri Jan 18, 2008, 03:55pm
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Timeout discrepancy

Game is close, private school teams met for the conference tourney championship last year (we worked the game), then met in the state finals as well. Late in the game, table calls me over.

Visitor's book has the home coach using two 60 second TOs and THREE 30 second TOs. She has times documented for when the TOs were taken.

Home book has him using two 60 second TOs and two 30 second TOs. He does not have times documented.

I ask visiting scorer why she didn't call us over when the third 30 was used. "I did but you ignored me." I had no knowledge of her trying to beckon any of us over.

What would you do?
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Old Fri Jan 18, 2008, 04:00pm
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Game is close, private school teams met for the conference tourney championship last year (we worked the game), then met in the state finals as well. Late in the game, table calls me over.

Visitor's book has the home coach using two 60 second TOs and THREE 30 second TOs. She has times documented for when the TOs were taken.

Home book has him using two 60 second TOs and two 30 second TOs. He does not have times documented.

I ask visiting scorer why she didn't call us over when the third 30 was used. "I did but you ignored me." I had no knowledge of her trying to beckon any of us over.

What would you do?
Check the TOs for the visitors -- see if one TO that was supposed to be charged to V was mistakenly recorded against H in V's book.

See if any of the officials recalls the total number of TOs taken by each team.

Is there a "stats" guy / gal?

Go with the official book.
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Old Fri Jan 18, 2008, 04:05pm
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What he said. I'll add if the stats guy is entering play by play into a computer at the table use that too.
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Old Fri Jan 18, 2008, 04:18pm
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So my question is how do you get a THIRD 30 second time out?

Somewhere along the line it is from the other team or something goofy.... If it went to a third 30 someone should have noticed and made it a full?

It pays to know these things in your head...
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Old Fri Jan 18, 2008, 04:22pm
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It pays to know these things in your head...
I was gonna say something, but figured why rub it in?

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Old Sat Jan 19, 2008, 09:58pm
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So my question is how do you get a THIRD 30 second time out?

Somewhere along the line it is from the other team or something goofy.... If it went to a third 30 someone should have noticed and made it a full?

It pays to know these things in your head...
The scorers agreed on the number of visitor's timeouts.

The visiting scorer never said "They don't have anymore 30's." So I have no idea where she came up with a third 30.

We went with the official book.
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Old Sat Jan 19, 2008, 11:24pm
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First off, the home book is suppose to the be official book, unless otherwise stated prior to the game. So really, whatever the home book has, goes. How you get a 3rd 30 sec timeout beats me. i normally keep track of times myself though. After each timeout I go to the table and ask how many and what type of timeout each time has.
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