Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The contact is ignored unless it's intentional or flagrant, and then it's an IT or FT foul.

The arrow isn't reversed until the AP throw-in ends. Since there won't be an AP throw-in, the arrow stays the same.

As I read the play, I'd go with the held ball and just admonish B1 to stop play when the whistle blows (but you were there and I wasn't and only you can know whether the contact meets the definition of intentional).

I agree that Don Wert is the correct answer to the real question posed. ;)

Originally Posted by JoeT

Well now remember, I'm just a dumb old coach...

But...

If you called the T (I think the only type of foul possible during a dead ball, right), why would you change the arrow since it was never used to determine possession?

Originally Posted by cmckenna

The only thing I don't think is right here is the changing of the arrow. Although you called a held ball, you never used the AP procedure so the arrow would not change. Remember, the arrow only changes once the AP throw-in is completed or the throwing in team violates.

I do agree though that the push was dead ball contact and either had to be considered incidental or you have to go with the T.

edited to add: WOW 4 posts all saying the same thing at the same time..... And they say we refs can't agree on things...

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Are you sure that the arrow should be reversed?

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Wow, multiple responses in the few minutes that it took me to craft a post!

It kind of looks like we're all jumping on the poor guy, but I'm sure that's not the case. Sometimes the posts just come fast and furious. ;)

So CA, how does that @ss which you put on the line feel after the beating it just took? :D

Originally Posted by ca_rumperee

I am now completely sure of whether to reverse arrow!

Originally Posted by ca_rumperee

Originally Posted by Corndog89

Most importantly, Don Wert is the only player in MLB history whose last name is spelled out in order (from left to right) on a standard keyboard.

Originally Posted by Corndog89

Most importantly, Don Wert is the only player in MLB history whose last name is spelled out in order (from left to right) on a standard keyboard.

Originally Posted by Coltdoggs

No guys name Yuiop or Werty?

Originally Posted by Corndog89

Most importantly, Don Wert is the only player in MLB history whose last name is spelled out in order (from left to right) on a standard keyboard.

Originally Posted by mkiogima

I would gladly bet 50 bucks that everyone looked down at their keyboard immediately after reading this!

Originally Posted by mkiogima

I would gladly bet 50 bucks that everyone looked down at their keyboard immediately after reading this!

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

You lose. I didn't. Still haven't either.