When it's 66-27....
 

...things happen. It was 41-6 at the half and the home team had one field goal the entire first half (a 3-pointer).

We had the winning team call a 30-second timeout essentially to sub. Other team was ready quickly.

Partner was the trail backcourt and didn't take the time to wait for me to give him the thumbs up. I didn't make a huge deal of it as I, too, wanted to get it going.

Coming up the floor, I heard some mumbling and quickly realized the losing team had six on the floor. Dammit. I whistle, we administer the technical.

Final is something like 77-30. At least we were in the car by 9PM.

Where's my good game? Huh?

Trade you my 66-20 tonight where the V scored 5 in the second half.

JVB 65 - 16 final tonight. 38 - 12 at half and 53 - 14 after 3rd quarter.

The losing coach was chirping, "that's walk", "over the back", "3 seconds", etc. from about 10 seconds into the game. lol

I had a 96-16 girls varsity game tonight. 49-4 at the half. The winning coach called off her press after the 1st quarter and subbed liberally, but she only had 9 players and they were all very good and very well coached. The losing coaches coached their girls throughout and never said a negative word to my partners or me. I think Dr Naismith rolled over in his grave a couple times during this mess. My knees ache, my brain is numb, and I too am looking forward to a rare good game.

I have had a rash of close games. Just this past Saturday I had an overtime game. On Sunday my college game was close and went down to the wire and was a 2 point game with a blocked shot near the end. Tonight I had a game where there was a foul called on a shooting foul with time running out and down by one. The FT shooter hit both FTs and game is over. This also does not include the multiple OT games I had in 2007 or games that went down the buzzer. I would almost like a couple of blowouts. My game on Friday was not very good but it was nip and tuck most of the game.

Peace

I had 2 very good games tonight. The boys went into OT, and the girls went to the wire. I think it was the first girls game this year I had where we didn't shoot the bonus in a half. The first half went fairly smooth, contact wise. The 4th quarter, it got rougher. Still a decent game though.

On nights I've had 2 games, this is the first this year with 2 good ones. Heck, I've only had like 5 or 6 good games all year, so 2 in the same week is cause for celebration. I think we've got too many teams and it waters things down too much. At the HS level we don't need any B teams. One 9th, one JV, and one Varsity. I can blame most of my bad games on B team games.

I've been 1/2 lucky lately. Friday did a girls JV/V DH. In the JV game nobody scored until about 10 seconds left in the first quarter. Varsity game was pretty good though.

Did a Soph. girls/JV boys DH today. Soph game was a blowout, but a pleasantly quiet one. JV game was close and fun. Tied with about 5 seconds left when a kid from the home team buries a three to win the game.

I have a bunch of DH's the rest of the week. If at least one game of each pair is a good one, I'll be very happy. :)

in weak games I see stuff I have never seen before. Crazy plays that I just don't know what the heck to call. Shots that no sane person would attempt. I even laughed when this girl whose team was losing badly kept trying to toss the ball between her defenders legs. It worked once though. I had a wrong basket too. weak play but it was relaxed so its ok.

I told you there is a good ol' boy network, you get all the good games!

Wow...........I was thinking last night of posting the same thing.

Girls Varsity, 25 point blow out. I'm the R , my partners could care less about a pregame, or the game for that matter, coaches seemed bored, I was in C the whole fourth quarter, lead never rotated. I was HOME by 9:00.

Let's just remember that blowouts are sometimes the games where the biggest messes occur. We tend to let down our "guard" and get too relaxed and the next thing you know, the sh!t has hit the fan and we are in a mess.

A decent example of that would be my son's JV game last night...our coach disciplined four of the starters for breaking a team rule (they skipped a class on Monday - ) and made them sit the first half. So at halftime the score was 32-6 (my son had 5 of the 6 :D )...the refs came out for the second half with the 4 starters back in and didn't know what hit them. The intensity level tripled, the pace of the game went way up, and things got a little dicey for a while.

Moral of the story - we all have blow-outs we have to deal with, but we don't get to put it on cruise control...

And btw, the worst one I ever reffed was GV and it was 111-17 with a 30 second shot clock...yuck.

Rich, you really have hit a bad streak. Hope it gets better soon!

Rich,

I do not officiate basketball, but do read a lot of the posts. I thought I had read that, if the ball was put into play with six players on the floor, the whistle was sounded and the player was removed with no penalty as the official had failed to count.

I even saw this last night at my son's game. Near the end of a fairly close game, we had a sub at the table. The ball went out-of-bounds under the basket and the old trail/new lead beckoned the sub into the game. There was some confusion between our players as to who was to go out and no one left. The coach was talking to an assistant and did not realize no one had come off. The new trail put the ball into play and as the ball was coming up the court, the new lead realized no one had left. He blew the whistle, had the player leave, and resumed the game with a throw-in. The visiting coach questioned him and I could hear the explanation that it was an official's error for not counting. The coach accepted the explaination and the game continued without any problems.

So there should have been a technical even though the officials messed up?

You heard wrong. Having only 5 players on the court is not the officials' responsibility, it is the team's. However, officials do their best to make sure both teams have 5 on the court before putting the ball in play, but sometimes it doesn't happen. In that situation a technical is the appropriate call.

What the h-e-double hockey sticks is wrong with you? :D

I started with one of them thar blowouts last night....A 22 - B 5 in the first quarter. From there on it started to get more interesting. When B, down the entire night, slapped on the full court press in the forth quarter, A completely lost it an panicked. B scored the final bucket with 12 seconds left and won 52 - 51. A good one and I had a rookie official with me!

And NO Mark, I wouldn't have EVER let it go into OT! :)

Let me put it to you this way. Many of the games I have referenced were not projected to be very good games. The 4 OT game I had earlier in the year, one of the teams was projected near the top of the conference and the other team was projected as to be near the bottom and is not historically a good basketball school. My two partners at this game were State Final officials and we were under the impression that we were going to have to basically keep one team from killing the other. Believe me, this was not a game I circled on my calendar as a "great" game. It just turned out that way.

Peace

If players would make their damn FTs then almost none of those OT games would have happen.

The game I had on Saturday that went into overtime (and referenced in another thread with the video), the visiting team was shooting double-bonus FTs and missed both of them. If he makes both it is a two possession game. If he makes one then only a 3 can win the game. Well he misses both FTs with 10.5 (or so) on the clock. They allow the home team to rebound the ball and then allowed them to go all the way under the basket and attempt a lay-up which put the game into overtime. Not much we could do there.

Peace

I've seen 8 of those games this year. My daughter's freshman team is 8-0 and has won games by 55-4, 48-13, 66-4, 65-19, 55-21, 63-0. Yes, 63-0, and they could've easily scored 100.

On the plus side, the officials got home early to their wives!

I might have forgotten to mention that occasionally the karma bus not only runs you over, but then stops, backs up, and does it again. ;)

Like Jeff pointed out, the good ones come when you least expect it. Just be ready for it.

Look on the bright side. At least it appears one team had some skills. It's when neither team isn't that I struggle...

Wow. The placekicker made all of her PATs.

Tonight I had a 10 point game.

We had one of those moments in the fourth quarter, though. Ball shoots out on my sideline about midcourt (I'm the lead with players down low, so I'm on the baseline). I call it immediately. BTW, I got it right. The player himself told me he knocked it out later.

Losing coach starts in about how neither of us are in position to make that call and on top of that he had just been on my partner over a call he made (that I didn't see the play for since I was officiating off ball) on a shooting foul. I held up my partner from inbounding at half court, walked all the way down to his bench, and as non-aggressively as possible stood next to the coach and told him that the next time he did that (call across the court like that) he would be getting a technical foul.

His response? "It may happen."

My response? "Fine, if you want one, I'll give it to you, cause if it does happen again, you can be sure there will be a technical foul." Said slowly, with eye contact, knowing that I may have to live up to this.

I didn't like his response, but I wasn't going to bait him or make it look like I was the aggressor right at that moment. Guess what? He shut his trap :)

No kidding, no one is in position to see that. Hire three freaking officials instead of whining about it.

VG..oh my gawd
 

9-7 at half...both were in double bonus...my first three man for the year...to worried knowing where i was supposed to be that I swallowed my whistle...feel bad for my partners sure they have a sore back carring my a$$ all night...tomorrow night another three man...sure is different than camps scrimmages...told myself no matter what postion or not call your game...gotta be better than this last train wreck

Hello All,
New Poster but a Long time watcher. Really enjoy the banter and discussion on rule interps. I like to repeat the different senarios I read here to my partners.
Speaking of blowouts. We had a college mens game Wed. night that ended in a 157 - 66 score. I don't think we ever got over a 4 count in the backcourt or over 3 on a closely guarded. Both teams ran...ran...ran... (Man, do my feet hurt!) The losing team must have scored half of the 66 shooting 3's and the winners probably scored 50pts by dunk. NO DEFENSE played in that game.

1) The game is a blow-out.

2) Because the game is a blow-out. Suck it up and admit to the coaches that you and your partner made a big mistake by putting the ball in play before both you had done your due diligence (both of you counting players; and your partner for putting the ball into play without making eye contact with you) and that we are going to get the game restarted with only ten (five for each team) players on the court and you (as a team) will not make this mistake again.

3) Yes, HC-V is repsonsible for having six players on the court, but the officiating crew made a huge mechanics blunder in a game that is a blow-out. Therefore, a TF in this situation is a game interrupter.

MTD, Sr.

Isn't a technical foul in <b>ANY</b> situation a game interrupter?:confused:

To be quite honest, I've never figured out how <b>not</b> to interrupt the game every single time I blow my whistle.

With all due respect, this is utter crap.

While I'll suck up and deal with the fact that we put the ball in play with 11 players on the floor (I beat myself up for about 10 seconds after the game), ultimately the TEAM is responsible for putting 5 players out there, not six.

Game interrupter? Both coaches and everyone in the building expected a technical foul and this is the only situation where we officials take on the blame when nobody (coaches, fans, etc.) actually thinks it's our fault. Weaseling out of the prescribed penalty and trying to make nice with everyone would be a much bigger game interrupter. As it was, we grabbed a shooter, she made the free throws, and we restarted the game.

Rich:

I agree that the HC has the ultimate responsibility to ensure that his team has only five players on the court BUT the game officials admitted that because the game was a blowout they did not do their job as officials before putting the ball into play.

When the ball is going to be put back into play after the clock has been stopped for some reason there is NO excuse for a team to have more that five players on the court when the ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower or free thrower unless that player decides to enter the court of his/her own volition. Just because the game is a blowout is NO excuse for the officials to get sloppy and lackadaisical because they want to get the game over quickly.

I have had TF’s for six players on the court, but NEVER (with apologies to the late J. Dallas Shirley) because I didn’t make sure that each team only had five players on the court before I or my partner(s) allowed the ball to be put back into play. If the non-administering official is not ready and his partner(s) put the ball into play, he should immediately sound his whistle and make sure everything is to his satisfaction. For an officiating crew to penalize a team because the officiating crew did not do its job because they just wanted the game to be over is unconscionable.

MTD, Sr.

With all due respect, I agree with everything that you said. Shiznit happens. And it happened because a coach didn't do his/her job.

Unconscionable? Lighten up, Francis.

It's too bad that a team can't count to five. While preventive officiating dictates we don't start with 6 on the floor, after a time out there simply is no excuse for the team to have too many players on the court.

I've already beaten myself up over this (10 seconds) as much as necessary. Off to get dressed for another game. Another boys game and I hope it's a good one as it would make 2 in a row.