Referee The Defense?

[jdw3018]

I apply it in all situations, but even moreso in on-ball situations. If you focus on the defender while remaining aware of the offensive player for violations, you will be better able to determine if contact is illegal, and whether the defender has legal guarding position in the case of contact.

I found that before I was taught this, I would focus on the ball handler much more often, and in those situations it's much more difficult to determine who causes contact, whether that contact is illegal, and whether legal guarding position has been obtained prior to certain types of contact.

[JoeTheRef]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

[I apply it in all situations, but even moreso in on-ball situations. If you focus on the defender while remaining aware of the offensive player for violations, you will be better able to determine if contact is illegal, and whether the defender has legal guarding position in the case of contact.
I found that before I was taught this, I would focus on the ball handler much more often, and in those situations it's much more difficult to determine who causes contact, whether that contact is illegal, and whether legal guarding position has been obtained prior to certain types of contact.

What he said!!!

[kblehman]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I found that before I was taught this, I would focus on the ball handler much more often, and in those situations it's much more difficult to determine who causes contact, whether that contact is illegal, and whether legal guarding position has been obtained prior to certain types of contact.

That makes sense, thank you. My partner and I tried last night to do a better job of this and we both agreed it's easier to make those determinations.

OTOH, it's a little more difficult to see a ball handler travel or palm the ball, etc. Perhaps this is why officials sometimes miss an obvious travel violation, because he's so intent (maybe too much) on watching the defender?

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by kblehman

That makes sense, thank you. My partner and I tried last night to do a better job of this and we both agreed it's easier to make those determinations.

OTOH, it's a little more difficult to see a ball handler travel or palm the ball, etc. Perhaps this is why officials sometimes miss an obvious travel violation, because he's so intent (maybe too much) on watching the defender?

That's the challenge, don't lock onto the defense.

Try always getting an open look and referee through the match-up...doing this gives you a good look at the play, means you can't lock on a single player and will help you nail those money calls (block/charge and illegal screens).

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by kblehman

Perhaps this is why officials sometimes miss an obvious travel violation, because he's so intent (maybe too much) on watching the defender?

"Referee the defense" does NOT mean "Referee ONLY the defense."

[Coltdoggs]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I apply it in all situations, but even moreso in on-ball situations. If you focus on the defender while remaining aware of the offensive player for violations, you will be better able to determine if contact is illegal, and whether the defender has legal guarding position in the case of contact.

I found that before I was taught this, I would focus on the ball handler much more often, and in those situations it's much more difficult to determine who causes contact, whether that contact is illegal, and whether legal guarding position has been obtained prior to certain types of contact.

I like what you are saying....

I would add this...We know where the ball handler is going....to the hoop (and I use that loosely, they might be moving from wing to baseline to make a pass to the post or whatever) point being, the O's job is to get to the hoop and get the ball in there.

As has been stated, if you focus on the ball handler, you have no idea if the D had LGP or if their movement caused the contact or if they beat the O to the spot and then contact happened OR if they are going down before contact.

These coaches that cry about PC calls by saying "He (the D) was not set).....defender doesn't have to be "set".....it's about how he's moving and when/how the contact occurs....You can't know this watching the Offensive player....

Had one the other day where the defender was in LGP and moving with the the dribbler... on the drive dribbler lowered his shoulder and went Shaq on him....TWEET! PC!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by kblehman

In my association's pre-game cheat sheet.

kblehman: Could you please post your "pregame cheat sheet". I'm always looking to improve mine.

[kblehman]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

kblehman: Could you please post your "pregame cheat sheet". I'm always looking to improve mine.

I tried uploading my association's 2-man pre-game checklist (it's in PDF format) but received an error stating that the file is too big. It's 89kb and the forum pop-up windows says the limit is 100kb, so I don't understand why, but here's a link to it on the CAOA website: http://www.greatlakesreferee.com/hig...l/pregame2.pdf

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by kblehman

Here's a link to it on the CAOA website: http://www.greatlakesreferee.com/hig...l/pregame2.pdf

Thanks !!

[NCAAREF]

Ok, poor choice of words, should have said "established a legal guarding position". You guys are so picky!