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dan74 Sat Dec 29, 2007 09:54am

Critique anyone
 
Although strongly considering hanging up my stripes, I have a VG game today, my first varsity game, that would be unfair to pull out of. It's broadcasted via the net at I Fan Sports Network at ifan.tv/

I haven't worked a three person game before, only scrimmages, so I'm sure I'll mess up some switches; however, should you have any input on court presence, mechanics, etc. Feel free.

I'll be the big doofus, yes, the one with glasses and a goatee. The game starts at 1:00 PM central time (Clayton HS v. West Salem)...click live events...Clayton game...enter.

26 Year Gap Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:19am

Put the bad experience behind you.

Snake~eyes Sat Dec 29, 2007 02:16pm

Watched for a few minutes, video is poor.

Some comments, and they're JMO:
1) Work on the court as trail, you are working out of bounds.
2) Don't signal TWO shots on obvious shooting foul at spot of foul.
3) Don't go stand next to coach after you report a foul - you are only inviting him to complain.

grunewar Sat Dec 29, 2007 02:18pm

And the announcer is horrible, in a dry humor kinda way......

Enjoyed watching it though. Thanks

tomegun Sat Dec 29, 2007 02:35pm

Is it halftime? I got the screen up and it just has a clock counting down. It is on now.

1. Are you going tableside or not? I've seen both on foul calls in the frontcourt.
2. The whistles have no pop. They are long and drawn out too much for my liking.
3. Mechanics are not a concern in this game. When reporting, the mechanics are not crisp and the voice isn't very good. A tall official doesn't look good when they bend over during mechanics.
4. There is zero hustle to the spot to report fouls.
5. I can't tell which official the OP is, but for this level I think all the officials are qualified enough to work. This game is slow though.
6. Pet peeve: when administering the ball for a throw in, it looks goofy for the official to raise their hand prior to giving the player the ball. Things happen and the official ends up standing there with the hand up. Why not just hand/bounce the player the ball and then raising the hand?
7. I just saw a hit mechanic that almost made me vomit! As you can tell mechanics (communication) is important to me.
8. Even with the Internet feed, I can tell there is some serious ball-watching going on.

BktBallRef Sat Dec 29, 2007 02:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake~eyes
2) Don't signal TWO shots on obvious shooting foul at spot of foul.

Why not?

BktBallRef Sat Dec 29, 2007 03:02pm

Video isn't great. But I will say, to your credit, you hustle to the reporting area and then you come to a stop before reporting. You partners come across as lazy because they both non-chalantly walk toward to the table AND report without stopping. Very lazy looking.

OOPS! Just saw this but couldn't tell who it was. Tableside T waving off the shot at the end of the 3rd quarter. Who's call is that. NFHS - C or T opposite table. NCAA - C. Never tableside T.

OOPS again! Just as I pat you on the back, you call a foul and walk to the reporting area.

Yep, you did it again. Must be getting tired. :)

In any case, I don't see anything that makes me believe you should hang 'em up. Don't let a bunch of idiots run you off.

Snake~eyes Sat Dec 29, 2007 03:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Why not?

I think it looks awkard and its unnecssary communication. JMO.

BktBallRef Sat Dec 29, 2007 03:12pm

If it's a shooting foul, you should always indicate the number of shots and the shooter's number before moving to the table. I don't see how it's either awkward or unnecessary.

IOW, I disagree. :)

Kelvin green Sat Dec 29, 2007 03:13pm

I guess I am not as good a websurfer as I thought I was. I could not find the game..

BktBallRef Sat Dec 29, 2007 03:18pm

http://www.ifan.tv/home.php?cat1=&ca...t3=&article=61

Click on Clayton vs. West Salem.

Kelvin green Sat Dec 29, 2007 03:21pm

Thanks... I must have something wrong with my browser since it did not even bring that up... I will go to another computer

mj Sat Dec 29, 2007 03:22pm

I only caught the second half...

The video is very grainy. I can't even make out which one is you. So I'll comment on the crew.

Early in the third quarter there was a backcourt violation that appeared legal. There was no possession in the front court.

Calling officials walked through the players too much when going to report fouls. Excellent job of stopping when you reported however.

Trail officials are positioned too high (C maybe as well) and should step down when a shot is taken.

End of the third quarter, the trail table side blew his whistle and waved his arms. It should have only been the C, who was opposite the table.

Trails are way too high on first of bonus free throws. You need to be able to officiate rebounding action and it's impossible to call (and sell) from half court.

Calling official (in 3-person) should notify the coach when a player is disqualified. You guys switched.

BktBallRef Sat Dec 29, 2007 03:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelvin green
Thanks... I must have something wrong with my browser since it did not even bring that up... I will go to another computer

The video plays in Windows Media Player.

BktBallRef Sat Dec 29, 2007 03:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mj
Early in the third quarter there was a backcourt violation that appeared legal. There was no possession in the front court.

Video froze on me at that point but the announcer seemed to want to question it as well.


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