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2 strange situations in the same game
Need some help on these. Both of these managed to happen in the same game. The game also included over 40 fouls (none were ticky tack) and I called 9 travels. You would think girls in the 8th grade would know they can't just run in place with the ball but oh well..
1) This happened right in front of my partner: Loose ball, A1 recovers laying on her back w/ her head about 6 inches off the floor but her pony tail is touching the end line. Is this OOB violation? Her hair is the only thing touching the line. 2) A1 bringing the ball up in the back court, ball is tipped and is loose. A2 recovers sitting on the division line. Her butt is on the line, one knee in the back court, both feet in the front court. She picks the ball up off the floor in the back court and passes to A3 who's in the back court. Any kind of violation? It looked weird but I held the whistle b/c I didn't really know and it happened pretty quick. |
what a shock; 40 fouls in an 8th grade girls game!
in 1) OOB in 2) nothing; both feet and the ball never reached frontcourt |
1) Hair is a body part. Thus, she has out of bounds status when she recovered the ball. Violation.
2) If I am interpreting your post accuarately, A1 had back court status when it was tipped. A2 recovers and does not meet criteria for frontcourt status (both feet and ball in front court), thus no violation, legal pass to A3. "A2 recovers sitting on the division line. Her butt is on the line, one knee in the back court, both feet in the front court." As an aside, I'm having a hard time picturing exactly what this looks like. |
8th grade girls are funny b/c they think no one will see them basically tackle a girl during a rebound. About 4 minutes after that, she thought it would be a good idea to kick a girl in the stomach so she got the boot (ha!).
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Thanks for all the info on this. I appreciate it!
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The "three points" only applies when dribbling the ball from BC to FC. Since there was no dribble in this play, A1 would have been in the FC if she was touching (or last touched) the FC and was not touching the BC. the answers are right; the reasoning is wrong. |
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2005-06 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations SITUATION 9: A1 recovers a loose ball on the playing court near the sideline, with his/her body entirely in bounds. However, A1's head is hovering out of bounds and his/her hair (which is in a long ponytail) is touching the floor, out of bounds. RULING: A1 is called for the out-of-bounds violation. (7-1-1; 7-1-2; 9-3-1) 2. Since the player is touching the backcourt that player has backcourt status. Therefore, the ball still does as well and no violation has occurred. |
Just want to be clear, here. "All three" (ball, left foot, right foot) do NOT have to be in front court to establish front court. "All three" ONLY applies when the ball is being dribbled. Otherwise, all that is required to establish front court is the pivot foot. According to the post, both feet were established in the front court - so I have a back court violation.
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You are mistaken. The position of the feet does not matter. What matters is that this player does have some part of the body touching the backcourt, so the player has backcourt status. 4-35-2 . . . When a player is touching the backcourt, out of bounds or the three-point line, the player is located in backcourt, out of bounds,or inside the three-point line, respectively. |
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Other body parts were touching the backcourt in the OP. |
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So then, if the player were to pick up one foot and leave the pivot foot in the front court, then touch the raised foot into the back court - you're not going to call back court? |
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What does the action which you describe have to do with the play under discussion? :confused: |
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