T or not??

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It's not often I agree with the "other side" but I would likely try to shut the coach down with something other than a technical. A technical here would be like throwing gas on a fire.

Real life example from the other night:

Partner called a foul the other night in the middle of traffic. I had the shooter but not the fouler (we were in the bonus). Partner reported the wrong number.

So, being it was a girls game, I stepped up and said softly to one of the likely candidates, "You know who that was on?" "Me, she said." Girls are usually honest in this position (guys, I wouldn't try this) and the coach didn't know I had asked (he probably did later, and I really don't care). I told my partner and he reported it. It was foul #4 on the player, and the coach started with my partner. Nothing over the top, but an "are you sure. I think you got the wrong player." Normally, it would've gone on a bit too long, but....

It looked bad, we didn't do our jobs, and that, my friends, is where the leash gets loosened at bit, for a very short time. Whacking him right there, right away, is almost the equivalent of baiting him for the technical..

But what the coach said in your sitch is different from the OP. The OP was being loud, obnoxious, and then hit the ABS limit (imo) with a loud sarcastic show-me-up smart-aleck remark that had nothing to do with the missed number. I agree that if you can shut the guy down without a T, it should be done that way, and it may be that some folks could pull that off. I couldn't have, and I don't think anyone should feel that a T would be out of place in the OP.

[JoeTheRef]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

But what the coach said in your sitch is different from the OP. The OP was being loud, obnoxious, and then hit the ABS limit (imo) with a loud sarcastic show-me-up smart-aleck remark that had nothing to do with the missed number. I agree that if you can shut the guy down without a T, it should be done that way, and it may be that some folks could pull that off. I couldn't have, and I don't think anyone should feel that a T would be out of place in the OP.

Now if the coach says what he says in the OP so that everyone in the gym hears him, that's an easy one, WHACK. Now if the official inbounds the ball near the team bench and the coach is standing there and makes the remark to me, without yelling or raising his voice, and I know I screwed up, I will probably let him ride that one time.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by JoeTheRef

Now if the coach says what he says in the OP so that everyone in the gym hears him, that's an easy one, WHACK. Now if the official inbounds the ball near the team bench and the coach is standing there and makes the remark to me, without yelling or raising his voice, and I know I screwed up, I will probably let him ride that one time.

That's a good clarification.

[Andy]

I can see both sides of this situation.

I don't know what the extent of "busting on me on the way to report" was, but if it was enough to distract me from the job at hand - reporting the foul - it needs to be dealt with. Each of us is going to have a different level of what is distracting.

From my reading of the OP, the coaches comments were enough to distract MidMadness. Now he has to delay the game a bit to talk to his partner, and the table, to try to get the correct number. This whole time, I'm sure the coach is being an angel on the sideline and patiently waiting to resume the game.

MidMadness resolves the situation the best he can and prepares to resume the game, but coach can't resist one more shot to add to the situation he helped create in the first place! I don't have a problem with whacking him here.

I could also see not whacking him and dealing with the comment another way. Whatever path you choose, the coach has to know that the comment was inappropriate and the game is moving on.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

I certainly don't have a problem with someone whacking a coach in this situation, but given my understanding of it, I'm probably just continuing on with the throw-in. The only reason I would T him is if the throw-in is so far away from the bench that everyone in the gym can hear his last comment. But if, as others have said, it's somewhat close to his bench, and it's just a snide remark between him and I, then yeah, I screwed up, I'll take the remark, and move on. But if he even brings us back to this situation ONCE the rest of the game, WHACK!

[Adam]

If I'd screwed this up, without the coach busting me on my way to report, I'd give him some leeway. Depending on how bad his comments were on my way to report, this is a possible T. He gets less rope due to his behavior.

Now, if it's a coach I've got a raport with, and he says it quietly in an obviously joking tone, I might respond with something self-deprecating. Not sure.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

But what the coach said in your sitch is different from the OP. The OP was being loud, obnoxious, and then hit the ABS limit (imo) with a loud sarcastic show-me-up smart-aleck remark that had nothing to do with the missed number. I agree that if you can shut the guy down without a T, it should be done that way, and it may be that some folks could pull that off. I couldn't have, and I don't think anyone should feel that a T would be out of place in the OP.

Rainmaker, thank you for stating the obvious. It is so obvious that I don't know why this would be compared to what the OP said. I doubt this was said in a quiet enough tone that only the coach and the official heard it. If anyone, and I mean anyone, can hear it then I give a T.