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Old Thu Dec 20, 2007, 11:55am
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When I see a quick T after a missed to controversial call, it tells me that the official is defensive and/or doesn't react well in stressful situations.
Many times one coach or the other think a call has been missed and becomes upset. The point is they don't have the right to be "busting you" on the way to report. I think you see most T's after some kind of call that appears to be controversial to someone - so do you mean we should only call a T for administrative reasons - like wrong number in the book? Otherwise is might appear that we are defensive and don't react well in the stressfull enviroment of a BB game?

IMO you are a brick short of a load on this one.
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2007, 12:05pm
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For anyone reading this post that is on the fence concerning this, don't listen to Oracle, Jeffpea or Fullor30. They are full of it. The OP said, "Coach is busting on me on the way to report."
I don't know how long the OP has been officiating, but I do know that from time to time we all forget a number. After the reporting is said and done, what the coach said was not questioning a call and it wasn't a comment made in any sporting manner. It was sarcastic only.
This is a super easy T and I will refrain from calling anyone who says what these three said a name. I'm really trying.
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2007, 12:06pm
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Many times one coach or the other think a call has been missed and becomes upset. The point is they don't have the right to be "busting you" on the way to report. I think you see most T's after some kind of call that appears to be controversial to someone - so do you mean we should only call a T for administrative reasons - like wrong number in the book? Otherwise is might appear that we are defensive and don't react well in the stressfull enviroment of a BB game?

IMO you are a brick short of a load on this one.
Apparently, the actions on the way to report weren't T-worthy. So, that's not a point of discussion here.

If you mess up, then you should take more than if you don't mess up. There's still a line that can't be crossed. Based on my mind's-eys view of the OP, I don't think the line was crossed, and I likely wouldn't T. I would address it. Several suggestions on how have been given.

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Old Thu Dec 20, 2007, 12:08pm
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Are you sure its blue coming in?? Surprised you can remember that

Bob, that isn't enough for a T?
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2007, 12:25pm
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Are you sure its blue coming in?? Surprised you can remember that

Bob, that isn't enough for a T?
I can let one remark like that go without even looking in his direction considering the circumstances. The crew DID screw up, after all.
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2007, 12:24pm
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Apparently, the actions on the way to report weren't T-worthy. So, that's not a point of discussion here.

If you mess up, then you should take more than if you don't mess up. There's still a line that can't be crossed. Based on my mind's-eys view of the OP, I don't think the line was crossed, and I likely wouldn't T. I would address it. Several suggestions on how have been given.

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I'm glad to see I'm not alone among "non-Old School" types.
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2007, 12:31pm
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Apparently, the actions on the way to report weren't T-worthy. So, that's not a point of discussion here.

If you mess up, then you should take more than if you don't mess up. There's still a line that can't be crossed. Based on my mind's-eys view of the OP, I don't think the line was crossed, and I likely wouldn't T. I would address it. Several suggestions on how have been given.

:shrug:

I agree with this line of thinking. If I screw up, I am more inclined to take a little more, but you are absolutely correct, there's still a line that can't be crossed. If the OP happened to me, I probably would've try to inject some of my stale humor, or just tell the coach, you're right I screwed the pooch on this one and move on. I think you can maintain your credibility by admitting you may have been wrong. Now if you're constantly telling the coach you screwed up then you have bigger problems.
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