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Chess Ref Tue Dec 18, 2007 07:06am

Basic Timing Question
 
The specifics of the scenairo are this :

Home team will be getting the ball OOB.

Visitors request a Time Out. Partner grants it.

After partner reports time out , kid cruises by and gives him an earful.

We now have a technical foul.

Question is do we wait to shoot the free throws till the time out is over ?

Jurassic Referee Tue Dec 18, 2007 07:19am

Yes.

JoeTheRef Tue Dec 18, 2007 07:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chess Ref
After partner reports time out , kid cruises by and gives him an earful.

You mean your partner didn't say "Thank-You"? :D

Nevadaref Tue Dec 18, 2007 08:18am

and no indirect T to the head coach, if this was one of the ten players.

Chess Ref Tue Dec 18, 2007 08:43am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeTheRef
You mean your partner didn't say "Thank-You"? :D

I'm confused Joe....:confused:

Nevadaref.

No indirect. Any reference for where this is layed. Specifically the wait till the time out is over before shooting. I tried but the Fed index has worn me down again.

Nevadaref Tue Dec 18, 2007 09:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chess Ref
I'm confused Joe....:confused:

Nevadaref.

No indirect. Any reference for where this is layed. Specifically the wait till the time out is over before shooting. I tried but the Fed index has worn me down again.

There is no where that I know of that specifically states to first complete the time-out and then upon resumption of the game award the technical foul FTs, but that is how it is done.

However, there is a case book play about a player who dunks after the 2nd quarter ends. The game resumes with the 2FTs following the halftime intermission to start the 3rd quarter. The principle is the same. Finish the timing interval during which the T was earned and then continue with the penalty afterwards.

Back In The Saddle Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:52am

Right, it's a general principle that we don't do business during time outs, nor do we interrupt or shorten time outs to do business. This is why you report fouls, replace injured or disqualified players, etc. before granting a time out.

tjones1 Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:07am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chess Ref
I'm confused Joe....:confused:

Nevadaref.

No indirect. Any reference for where this is layed. Specifically the wait till the time out is over before shooting. I tried but the Fed index has worn me down again.

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Nevadaref Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:13am

Tanner,
I'm pretty sure that Chessref was inquiring about a reference for the procedure of when to administer the FTs. He seemed to already know that no indirect should be charged in this situation. I took his post as just a quick confirmation that he did indeed not charge the head coach with one.

But perhaps I misunderstood.

mbyron Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:14am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chess Ref
The specifics of the scenairo are this :

Two questions:
1. Does that rhyme with 'Cairo'?
2. Would that be Cairo, Egypt, or Cairo, Illinois?

tjones1 Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Tanner,
I'm pretty sure that Chessref was inquiring about a reference for the procedure of when to administer the FTs. He seemed to already know that no indirect should be charged in this situation. I took his post as just a quick confirmation that he did indeed not charge the head coach with one.

But perhaps I misunderstood.

Hmmm....yeeeeah, you're right. :) Should have read it more carefully...thanks.

Chess Ref Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:29am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Tanner,
I'm pretty sure that Chessref was inquiring about a reference for the procedure of when to administer the FTs. He seemed to already know that no indirect should be charged in this situation. I took his post as just a quick confirmation that he did indeed not charge the head coach with one.

But perhaps I misunderstood.

you did not misunderstand.

Are you working Weds. night ?

I Feel like driving up the mountain tomorrow

Chess Ref Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron
Two questions:
1. Does that rhyme with 'Cairo'?
2. Would that be Cairo, Egypt, or Cairo, Illinois?

Byte me:D

Nevadaref Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chess Ref
you did not misunderstand.

Are you working Weds. night ?

I Feel like driving up the mountain tomorrow

Yes, I just sent you a PM.

bob jenkins Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron
Two questions:
1. Does that rhyme with 'Cairo'?
2. Would that be Cairo, Egypt, or Cairo, Illinois?

1) Yes.

2) Illinois.

--OR--

1) No.

2) Egypt.


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