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fullor30 Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:16am

Posible mechanics change for 2008,09
 
I have a habit of only blowing whistle on out of bounds plays,calling color and pointing direction.

Heard a rumor that this may actually be an approved mechanic next year or least it's up for discussion. Anyone else hear this?

JRutledge Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:35am

Who is purposing this change? And honestly if someone has to add this as a mechanic, the governing body has a little too much time on their hands.

Peace

Bearfanmike20 Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:37am

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Originally Posted by fullor30
I have a habit of only blowing whistle on out of bounds plays,calling color and pointing direction.

Heard a rumor that this may actually be an approved mechanic next year or least it's up for discussion. Anyone else hear this?


so... no hand up???

Alot of refs do that. I think its an nba mechanic. Everytime I find myself doing that I feel like slapping the sh1t out of myself. LOL... Got to get that hand up till they do change the rule.

bob jenkins Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:44am

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Originally Posted by fullor30
I have a habit of only blowing whistle on out of bounds plays,calling color and pointing direction.

Heard a rumor that this may actually be an approved mechanic next year or least it's up for discussion. Anyone else hear this?

It is the NCAAW mechanic. NCAAW rules / mechanics often seem to be the baseis for new FED rules / mechanics.

JRutledge Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:56am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
It is the NCAAW mechanic. NCAAW rules / mechanics often seem to be the baseis for new FED rules / mechanics.

I would not go that far. Many of the adoptions are NCAA things, not specific to the Women's side. As a matter of fact Women's rules and mechanics seem to be going further away from other types of basketball.

Peace

fullor30 Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
Who is purposing this change? And honestly if someone has to add this as a mechanic, the governing body has a little too much time on their hands.

Peace

Hey, what's new? Change for change sake seems to be the motto de jour.

mbyron Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:40pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30
Hey, what's new? Change for change sake seems to be the motto de jour.

Ew. That's almost as bad as 'suicidologist'.

JRutledge Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:41pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30
Hey, what's new? Change for change sake seems to be the motto de jour.

I agree. Do not get me wrong I think this would be a good change, but I just do not see the big deal. I would advocate more of an option than just getting rid of the stop clock mechanic. We did not need a kicking signal and we did it anyway.

Peace

fullor30 Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:42pm

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Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20
so... no hand up???

Alot of refs do that. I think its an nba mechanic. Everytime I find myself doing that I feel like slapping the sh1t out of myself. LOL... Got to get that hand up till they do change the rule.

As someone mentioned, I'm watching too much TV. regarding NCAAW, I believe I started emulating someone who is a D-1 women's official.

I am neither a college or NBA ref and should probably stay in my world.

fullor30 Mon Dec 17, 2007 01:34pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron
Ew. That's almost as bad as 'suicidologist'.

Au contraire, It works well with the subject at hand.

fullor30 Mon Dec 17, 2007 01:37pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
I agree. Do not get me wrong I think this would be a good change, but I just do not see the big deal. I would advocate more of an option than just getting rid of the stop clock mechanic. We did not need a kicking signal and we did it anyway.

Peace


That's my thought too. The kicking signal is overkill.

Rich Mon Dec 17, 2007 03:03pm

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Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20
so... no hand up???

Alot of refs do that. I think its an nba mechanic. Everytime I find myself doing that I feel like slapping the sh1t out of myself. LOL... Got to get that hand up till they do change the rule.

So in 2008, then, they'll have caught up to me. :)

I'll believe it when I see it.

TRef21 Wed Dec 19, 2007 03:32am

In NCAA Mens that mechanic is used as well. We can do the high school one or just point. At the high school level I just point, but the instructional chair gets on my *** for that, so I'm trying to fix it. If you think about, the high school is basically NCAA mens mechanics, except NCAA mens, as the option of using the directional out of bounds signal by just pointing. hasthe signal for an intentional that is called for excessive contact, and the shorten timeout for subsitiution.

Tommy

JRutledge Wed Dec 19, 2007 04:08am

Actually there is not option to stop the clock in NCAA Men's Mechanics. The stop clock is required if you use pure mechanics.

Peace

Scrapper1 Wed Dec 19, 2007 08:39am

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Originally Posted by TRef21
NCAA mens, as the option of using the directional out of bounds signal by just pointing.

Tommy, I know that you have the CCA manual, because you quoted it in the thread about the Trail chopping in time. If you look in it, it has the stop-clock signal and there's no longer an asterisk next to it to indicate that it is optional on out of bounds violations. About 3 years ago, the manual made a big deal about saying that the stop-clock signal is NOT optional. It should be given for all violations, including out of bounds.

I know that JRut already said the same thing, but I just wanted to reinforce it. Hope it's not overkill.


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