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Old Sun Dec 16, 2007, 07:14pm
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap
The freight train box out is one that seems to baffle the offenders when it is called. My partner called one on a kid yesterday and he was looking so perplexed that my partner explained what he was doing. He apparently was a kid who needs re-tests in class, because not too much time passed before I called him for a foul on a freight train box out.
Probably the 3rd or 4th game I called here in Colorado, I had a girl get tagged with this three straight times.

Shooting free throws, and she does it on the free throw.
We shoot two more, and she does it again.
We shoot two more, this time nothing. However, the offense gets the rebound and the same girl does it to the three point shooter, this time injuring her. 8th grade AAU girls. I don't think she realized what she'd done, other than injur another player. Poor kid was crying as she walked to her bench.

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Old Sun Dec 16, 2007, 08:55pm
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From JRutledge: "First of all advantage/disadvantage is written in the rulebook. It is not talked about in the exact terms of "advantage/disadvantage" but it is talked about in the incidental contact rules (Rule 4-27). This rule very clearly states that all contact is not a foul and if normal actions by an offensive or defensive player are not hindered, then a foul should not be called. The rule even says that contact that is severe is not necessarily a foul either"

JRutledge is correct. In addition to advantage/disadvantage being in 4-27 of the Rule Book, it can also be found on page 10:

The Intent And Purpose Of The Rules

The restrictions which the rules place upon the players are intended to create a balance of play; to provide equal opportunity between the offense and the defense; to provide equal opportunity between the small player and the tall player; to provide reasonable safety and protection; to create an atmosphere of sporting behavior and fair play; and to emphasis cleverness and skill without unduly limiting freedom of action of individual or team play on either offense or defense.

Therefore, it is important to know the intent and purpose of a rule so that it may be intelligently applied in each play situation. A player of a team should not be permitted an advantage which is not intended by a rule. Neither should play be permitted to develop which may lead to placing a player at a disadvantage not intended by a rule.
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Old Sun Dec 16, 2007, 08:58pm
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Billy,

Can you ever put words together that are your own? There is nothing wrong with what you post; I just wonder do you know how to put those things into your own words?

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Old Sun Dec 16, 2007, 09:26pm
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From JRutledge: "I just wonder do you know how to put those things into your own words?"

JRutledge: I don't. The recent post you refer to was taken from page 10 of the 2007-08 NFHS Rule Book. Who can state the intent and purpose of the rules better than the NFHS? I seldom post facts that are not taken from a reliable source. You will get my own words when I offer an opinion, which, on this Forum, is very seldom, due to the expertise, and experience, of many Forum posters, including yourself. I just like to read the posts and threads, learn as much as I can from them, and occassionally post something that may, hopefully, contribute to the Forum discussion.

Also, because I'm on my local board's training committee, I have a lot of basketball officiating information saved, in document format, on my computer, and I'm not a very good typist.

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