Rule 10, NCAA
 

You may not have noticed, but Rule 10 was completely re-organized in this year's NCAA book. Last year, sections 1-19 dealt with technical fouls and fighting and then personal fouls were treated in sections 20-23. This year, personal fouls are section 1.

Last year, the technical fouls were listed in sections that dealt with indirect T's then indirect T's on fans, then direct T's on players, direct T's on bench personnel, etc. This year, the technical fouls are categorized by "administrative", "player/substitute" and "bench". Then under each category, the PENALTY section tells you which articles are direct and which are indirect.

That stuff is kind of interesting (probably only to me, but that's ok), but that's not really the important part. The important part is the newly worded PENALTY sections in Section 3 and Section 4. Those penalty sections tell you which articles are direct and which are indirect. Then under the heading EJECTION, it says this:

The technical fouls in Section 3 include unsportsmanlike acts by players, like cursing at the ref. According to this penalty section, the head coach should receive an indirect for that.

That can't be right, can it? Somebody would've made a big deal about it in the pre-season, wouldn't they? Any thoughts?

I'm not sure what your question is...are you saying that the concept of a coach sharing in the penalty for bench T's is new? Because it's not. What might be new is that the term 'indirect technical foul' now applies to this case as it does under fed rules.

Here's what it says in 2007 ncaa book under 10-10, I've underlined what I believe is relevant

So...same idea under different terminology.

So, charge an indirect to the coach when it is directly charged to a player. count as one towards team foul.

Obviously, I wasn't clear enough. The PENALTY section applies to ALL the technical fouls in Section 3 and Section 4. Section 3 includes PLAYER TECHNICALS for unsportsmanlike conduct.

IOW, you call a foul on PLAYER (not bench personnel) A1. He turns and says "You suck". You give A1 a direct T. The new PENALTY section says that you now also assess an indirect T to the head coach.

That is definitely NOT the same old concept. Was this an intentional change or did it slip past the editor?

Ok, I'm trying one more time. Is there no NCAA official out there who thinks this is a big deal?!?!

Player on the court curses at you, you T him and give an indirect to the coach. Nobody cares? :confused:

Relax fergawdsake.

Seems like they misworded the rewrite.

WOW! This is a pretty big mistake by the editors! (Which we will assume it is a mistake)

This should be reported as soon as possible so that a notice can be sent out.

Good catch Scrapper!

Scrappy-doo, check out the ESO website and see if there are any corrections on there. I just went and looked at the Rule 10 - Women Only section and it did not have any of that wording in there.

I don't see anything on the ESO site about it at all, including the first bulletin. Also, I think the EJECTION section applies to both Men and Women. The PENALTY section is for Women only, but I think the EJECTION part applies to both. It talks about getting 2 T's to be ejected; but the PENALTY section doesn't make any mention of it. So I think the EJECTION section is meant for both.

I agree and certainly hope that's the case. I would like to see a correction, though.

Hey Rocky was that a mistake that you just fixed....or do you know something that we don't ;)