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DonInKansas Wed Dec 05, 2007 03:31am

Yeah, we got fist-bumps from one of the teams during my first series the other night. I returned it and moved on. I'm also in Small Town America tho as well.....

Nevadaref Wed Dec 05, 2007 03:37am

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Originally Posted by icallfouls
If I remember correctly, there is a specific directive in NCAA that officials are not supposed to shake/bump hands for the very reason that it gives the appearance of favoritism if only one team engages in this practice.

Since Ms. Struckoff also sits on the NFHS Board, I would be inclined to say that this will soon be passed down to the HS level.

That's probably something that's going into the new Illinois manual. :D

Seriously, I would be surprised if the NFHS tried to make a directive like that. If they did, this is one that I would refuse to follow. As I just posted above, all of the kids out here come to the officials before the game. I think that it is a very nice gesture of sportsmanship and respect. For better game management it seems that we should be taking steps to increase our level of communication and rapport with the players, not alienate them.

armymanjones Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:29am

I just think it is a way the coaches are teaching the players sportsmaship and if the other team wanted to bump fists or shake hands they could. Either way when the other team sees that you are caling the game fair it wouldn't matter if they came and gave you a hug........no big deal.

PYRef Wed Dec 05, 2007 01:19pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
My only real issue with the handshake thing is that heaven only knows where these little germ magnets hands have been. I prefer a fist bump if I can get away with it.

What? Do you fist bump the ball all night during the game too?? Get real.
Just wash your hands afterward or keep a small bottle of hand sanitizer in your bag.

Back In The Saddle Wed Dec 05, 2007 02:57pm

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Originally Posted by PYRef
What? Do you fist bump the ball all night during the game too?? Get real.
Just wash your hands afterward or keep a small bottle of hand sanitizer in your bag.

Not that I'm really paranoid about it, but person to person contact is much more likely to pass something than person to object to person. And yes, I do wash my hands afterward.

But perhaps you're right. Maybe I do need to "get real." Whatever the hell that means. :rolleyes:

Y2Koach Wed Dec 05, 2007 03:18pm

Courtesy is courtesy, if it comes from a good place with sincerity, it really shouldn't be a big deal. I've complemented an officiating crew for doing a good job even though we lost the game. I figure refs get it rough 95% of the time anyways, so if they take pride in doing a good job, I will let them know.

I actually had an official cuss at me one time for saying "good job" after my team lost a game. Then, about 2 years later, the same official was doing one of my games. When, in the course of a game, one of my players travelled and I yelled at my guy "yeah, you travelled!!! Slow down and use your dang footwork!", and as the official ran by me i told him "good call". After the game, the official pulled me aside and asked "did I cuss at you after a game a while ago?" I told him I don't remember, and he said "I think I did, I apologize. You do a good job with your guys." That was a nice after-school-special moment.

PYRef Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:26pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
Not that I'm really paranoid about it, but person to person contact is much more likely to pass something than person to object to person. And yes, I do wash my hands afterward.

But perhaps you're right. Maybe I do need to "get real." Whatever the hell that means. :rolleyes:

I didn't mean it to be critical BITS. It's just that there are hundreds of things you touch everyday that are probably as much or more contaminated than some of those kids hands.
Don't go around worrying about those handshakes.

rainmaker Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:01pm

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Originally Posted by PYRef
It's just that there are hundreds of things you touch everyday that are probably as much or more contaminated than some of those kids hands.
Don't go around worrying about those handshakes.

Have you talked to an infectious disease specialist lately? Handshaking is something a lot of doctors would like to have outlawed. Hand to hand to other body part (nose, eye, mouth, wound or sore, etc) is one of the best ways for germs to spread. Hands are much better at spreading germs than "things". Handwashing is the best way to avoid a lot of colds and flu, and avoiding hand to hand contact is another strong preventive measure.

At least, that's what every doctor I talk to says.

Nevadaref Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:10pm

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
Handwashing is the best way to avoid a lot of colds and flu, and avoiding hand to hand contact is another strong preventive measure.

At least, that's what every doctor I talk to says.

Every doctor who I know says that a person's immune system is the best defense against colds and flus. ;)

rainmaker Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:18pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Every doctor who I know says that a person's immune system is the best defense against colds and flus. ;)

You're joking, right?

truerookie Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:01am

Do you feel weird shaking the coaches hand too? It can be perceived as showing favoritism too. Just a question.

Jurassic Referee Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:52am

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Originally Posted by truerookie
Do you feel weird shaking the coaches hand too? It can be perceived as showing favoritism too. Just a question.

If it bothers you try this(male coaches)...... tickle the palm of the coach's hand with your index finger when you're shaking hands. ....wink at him while you're doing so......licking your lips at the same time can be helpful too.

Just wait and see if that particular coach runs the next time that he sees you, instead of coming over to shake your hand.

Works for me.

Of course, if that coach runs <b>at</b> you when he sees you, you might have to re-think your strategy.:eek:

Alternatively, for female coaches, use the same routine but stick your tongue out and lick your eyebrows.

Always glad to help.

PYRef Thu Dec 06, 2007 01:01pm

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
Have you talked to an infectious disease specialist lately? Handshaking is something a lot of doctors would like to have outlawed. Hand to hand to other body part (nose, eye, mouth, wound or sore, etc) is one of the best ways for germs to spread.

Juulie, I can honestly say I've never heard anyone talk about outlawing handshakes.

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
Hands are much better at spreading germs than "things". Handwashing is the best way to avoid a lot of colds and flu, and avoiding hand to hand contact is another strong preventive measure.

At least, that's what every doctor I talk to says.

The hand to hand contact isn't the problem. It's sticking your fingers in your mouth afterward that will cause you problems.
All I'm saying is use good hygiene and you don't have live your life like your in a bubble.

rainmaker Thu Dec 06, 2007 01:08pm

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Originally Posted by PYRef
Juulie, I can honestly say I've never heard anyone talk about outlawing handshakes.


The hand to hand contact isn't the problem. It's sticking your fingers in your mouth afterward that will cause you problems.
All I'm saying is use good hygiene and you don't have live your life like your in a bubble.

You're right in some ways. But avoiding hand-to-hand contact is one more step to take in avoiding spreading germs. Also, I exaggerated about outlawing handshakes. The doctor I was talking to works with patients who are on extensive immunosuppression, and want their patients' families to be obsessive about avoiding ANYTHING that could get to the kid. She encourages us to watch a few Monk videos if we need ideas (she exaggerates there, too, though!)

Mark Padgett Thu Dec 06, 2007 01:15pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Every doctor who I know says that a person's immune system is the best defense against colds and flus. ;)

That's not what Dr. Vinnie Boombatz says!

http://andykaufman.jvlnet.com/vinnie.jpg


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