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Adam Tue Nov 20, 2007 02:23am

I just say, "White this way, Blue that way." ;)


Seriously. Just say "Ready!" Then toot and toss.

CoachP Tue Nov 20, 2007 09:11am

Remember the days when almost all 8 non jumpers were on the circle? These days, I rarely see more than 2 players there anymore.

Chess Ref Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:15am

Reference Please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins
You were (mostly) correct. Each "space" is 3' deep, (not 5').

Once the R is ready, players can't move onto the circle or around it.

Once it's tossed and before it's touched, non-jumpers can't move into the circle or into an occupied space. Also, the jumper can't leave the circle until the ball is touched.

Looking for it but can't find the 3 foot reference. :o Anybody feel like pointing it out to me ?

mj Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chess Ref
Looking for it but can't find the 3 foot reference. :o Anybody feel like pointing it out to me ?

It's in the case book...Situation 6.3.2

IREFU2 Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:33am

Rule book - 6-3-5a&b also....page 47

IREFU2 Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:34am

Some times SR or Veteran Official doesnt always include rule knowlege.....just years in the game.......

Chess Ref Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mj
It's in the case book...Situation 6.3.2

Thanks.....Casebook was my next stop....

Nevadaref Fri Nov 23, 2007 04:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chess Ref
Looking for it but can't find the 3 foot reference. :o Anybody feel like pointing it out to me ?

1-3-1 ...Spaces for nonjumpers around the center restraining circle are 36 inches deep.

Ralph Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy
6-3-2 When the referee is ready and until the ball is tossed, non-jumpers shall not: (a)Move onto the center restraining circle. (b)Change position around the center restraining circle.
6-3-5 Until the tossed ball is touched by one or both jumpers, non-jumpers shall not: (a) Have either foot break the plane of the center restraining circle cylinder. (b) Take a position in any occupied space.

So, it looks like your memory isn't too bad, yet.

Perhaps, next time the wife has other ideas, pick up your books from the night stand, and see what her reaction is... ;) (Ok, that might be considered cruel and unusual.)

I believe even players "on the circle" may move OFF the circle when the ball is released. They just can't "change position around the circle" as the rule states. For example, a player on the circle can break backward off the circle toward the basket.

Telling the players to "hold your positions" is not advisable as it is coaching the players in a sense. Sort of like saying "move those hands up more vertical". Just bad form by an official IMO.

Nevadaref Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:39pm

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6-3-2 When the referee is ready and until the ball is tossed, non-jumpers shall not: (a)Move onto the center restraining circle. (b)Change position around the center restraining circle.
6-3-5 Until the tossed ball is touched by one or both jumpers, non-jumpers shall not: (a) Have either foot break the plane of the center restraining circle cylinder. (b) Take a position in any occupied space.


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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralph
I believe even players "on the circle" may move OFF the circle when the ball is released. They just can't "change position around the circle" as the rule states. For example, a player on the circle can break backward off the circle toward the basket.

Telling the players to "hold your positions" is not advisable as it is coaching the players in a sense. Sort of like saying "move those hands up more vertical". Just bad form by an official IMO.

M&M provided the restrictions on the non-jumpers. Therefore, it follows that these players can take any other action with regard to their positioning and the timing of it without penalty.

So actually the non-jumpers may back off from the circle even prior to the referee releasing the ball. They don't have to wait for the toss for that.

I agree with the rest of your post and welcome to the forum. :)


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