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roadking Sun Nov 11, 2007 05:55pm

Help with finding rules interpatation for NFHS test 1
 
My mind working a little slow right now, would someone direct me to the rule interpatation for these question on NFHS Test 1. thank you

#24
#31
#36
#64
#72
#76
#78

Nevadaref Sun Nov 11, 2007 06:53pm

#24 8-1-2
#31 4-4-7b
#36 9-1 Penalty section 2a
#64 6-7-1, 5-8-3b
#72 5-6-2 exception 2
#76 4-44-2a1
#78 3-4-15

roadking Sun Nov 11, 2007 07:38pm

thank you,
I'm still have problem with #36 and #29

Nevadaref Sun Nov 11, 2007 08:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadking
thank you,
I'm still have problem with #36 and #29

Explain the problems that you are having with these questions and I will try to help you understand them.

HawkeyeCubP Mon Nov 12, 2007 01:37am

(Not jumping over you, Nevada - just bored, and feel like contributing.)

#29 = 9-1-4
#36 = I agree, this one was difficult because of the last sentence in 8-1-2, but I'm 99% sure on my answer.

roadking Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:17am

#29 True, I was reading to much into the question.

#36 False? Wouldn't you first have a violation on team B for not occupying the lane. After that, If team B still does not occupy the first lane spaces we would have a T prior to the 2nd free throw attempt?

mj Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadking
#29 True, I was reading to much into the question.

#36 False? Wouldn't you first have a violation on team B for not occupying the lane. After that, If team B still does not occupy the first lane spaces we would have a T prior to the 2nd free throw attempt?

There is no violation on the first attempt if it is successful.

chartrusepengui Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:04am

:confused: :confused: :confused:
the first attempt cannot be successful as opponents of the free thrower shall occupy the first lane space. If they are not there - an attempt cannot be made. Or am I wacco this morning?

mj Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui
:confused: :confused: :confused:
the first attempt cannot be successful as opponents of the free thrower shall occupy the first lane space. If they are not there - an attempt cannot be made. Or am I wacco this morning?

Not during the RPP. Case book 9.1.2 is almost identical.

chartrusepengui Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:17am

I wasn't aware it was following a TO or intermission so was reading my own scenario into it. On these tests - I should know better.

bob jenkins Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui
I wasn't aware it was following a TO or intermission so was reading my own scenario into it. On these tests - I should know better.

The test specifically says it's during the RPP.

The RPP is designed to allow the ball to become live and possibly have a violation rather than a T during certain delays. On the play in question, since the basket was made, there was no violation and no delay. Use the procedure again.

chartrusepengui Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:27am

yep - went back and actually read the question not just posts. Sorry!

Nevadaref Mon Nov 12, 2007 04:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins
The test specifically says it's during the RPP.

The RPP is designed to allow the ball to become live and possibly have a violation rather than a T during certain delays. On the play in question, since the basket was made, there was no violation and no delay. Use the procedure again.

That's why I cited the penalty section as the reference in my initial response for the OP. I was trying to get him to read what the penalty is if the try is successful without directly telling him the answer.

IREFU2 Tue Nov 13, 2007 07:26pm

#36 is is true -

9-1-2 & 10-1-5b are the references.

Nevadaref Tue Nov 13, 2007 07:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by IREFU2
#36 is is true -

9-1-2 & 10-1-5b are the references.

:(
You are 0-2 in the past five minutes. Either you don't understand these rules very well or you are purposely trying to give people the wrong answers. If it's the latter, that may not be a bad idea considering some of the folks who fish for answers here.

HawkeyeCubP Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by IREFU2
#36 is is true -

9-1-2 & 10-1-5b are the references.

I respectfully disagree.

Which parts of those two references make the statement in #36 a true statement?

IREFU2 Wed Nov 14, 2007 08:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
:(
You are 0-2 in the past five minutes. Either you don't understand these rules very well or you are purposely trying to give people the wrong answers. If it's the latter, that may not be a bad idea considering some of the folks who fish for answers here.

Umm, sorry but I am just putting in my two cents and I would never try to purposely give wrong answers......that my friend is a cold shot at me...

bob jenkins Wed Nov 14, 2007 09:16am

Quote:

Originally Posted by IREFU2
Umm, sorry but I am just putting in my two cents and I would never try to purposely give wrong answers.......

Then that leaves Nevada's first option.

IREFU2 Wed Nov 14, 2007 09:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins
Then that leaves Nevada's first option.

I beg to differ.....like I said, just my two cents. Thats what this board is for correct? Many with a difference of opinions. Sorry if I didnt score a 100 on the test like the both of you and if I am not a walking rule book like the both of you.....some of us are indeed still learning.

Nevadaref Wed Nov 14, 2007 07:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by IREFU2
that my friend is a cold shot at me...

I did not intend to take "a cold shot" at you. If you aren't sure about an answer, it would be nice if you would write, "I think that the answer is ... and here's why..."

What you posted came across as you making a statement with conviction and certainty, instead of expressing an opinion. Unfortunately, what you wrote was incorrect and since your post didn't include an explanation, I could only surmise why you wrote what you did.
(Plus you provided two incorrect answers in a very short time period.)

I did not mean to offend you. I offer my apologies and will try to help you understand the situations better if you would post your current thoughts.

IREFU2 Thu Nov 15, 2007 08:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
I did not intend to take "a cold shot" at you. If you aren't sure about an answer, it would be nice if you would write, "I think that the answer is ... and here's why..."

What you posted came across as you making a statement with conviction and certainty, instead of expressing an opinion. Unfortunately, what you wrote was incorrect and since your post didn't include an explanation, I could only surmise why you wrote what you did.
(Plus you provided two incorrect answers in a very short time period.)

I did not mean to offend you. I offer my apologies and will try to help you understand the situations better if you would post your current thoughts.

No problem...


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