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Old Mon Jan 28, 2002, 04:20pm
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Page 83 of the Officials Manual. Section 380.
Reads in part "The Umpires shall take a positiion on the free-throw lines facing each bench area with the Trail on the line in the frontcourt of the direction of play." Since this is during an intermssion between quarters, how can the Trail be in the frontcourt?? Thanks to whoever (translates)sets me straight.
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I believe they are referring to the frontcourt when play resumes.
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2002, 04:38pm
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Don't have the book, have only worked 2 man and since I have not had the benefit of camp instruction would pass anyway.

However, I will ask one question. If it is during the intermission between quarters, why would you not know direction of play? One of the duties of the referee is to administer the alternating-possession throw-in to start the second, third and fourth quarters. I understand there could be a steal of the pass, but you know the direction the teams will be going and know which team will have the ball for the throw-in, therefore you probably know which will be the frontcourt.
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2002, 04:53pm
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The question is not about the direction of play. The question is if the trail is in the frontocurt, who is in the backcourt? The lead? Doesn't make sence. Trail in
frontcourt, lead in backcourt??
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2002, 04:55pm
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Page 83 of the Officials Manual. Section 380.
Reads in part "The Umpires shall take a positiion on the free-throw lines facing each bench area with the Trail on the line in the frontcourt of the direction of play." Since this is during an intermssion between quarters, how can the Trail be in the frontcourt?? Thanks to whoever (translates)sets me straight.
Before the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th qtr. begins, the referee should stand at the division line, in the FC of the team that has the AP arrow. The referee will become the trail, after the warning horn, when the umpires take their respective positions at lead and center.

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Old Mon Jan 28, 2002, 10:21pm
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Before the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th qtr. begins, the referee should stand at the division line, in the FC of the team that has the AP arrow. The referee will become the trail, after the warning horn, when the umpires take their respective positions at lead and center.

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So whoever was trail at the end of the first quarter becomes lead to begin the second? What if the ref is trail - do you go to who was the center?
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2002, 10:32pm
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The question is not about the direction of play. The question is if the trail is in the frontocurt, who is in the backcourt? The lead? Doesn't make sence. Trail in
frontcourt, lead in backcourt??
The referee will be the trail when the teams come back in the floor. He simply stands in the FC of the team that will get the ball as an indication that they have the AP arrow. When the teams enter the floor, he'll step into the BC and administer the throw-in.

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So whoever was trail at the end of the first quarter becomes lead to begin the second? What if the ref is trail - do you go to who was the center?
No, not necessarily.

At the end of a 1st qtr., the R will secure the ball and go to the division line. The trail, or the center if the R was trail, will go to the top of the FT line at the opposite end. The L will go the top of the FT line on his ned of the floor.

When the teams return to the floor, the U who is on the end of the floor of the team that has the arrow, will go to L. The other U will move to C, tableside.
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So, basically, U1 and U2 stay on the side (North-South) of the gym they were working on (relative to each other)?

After halftime, do you remember who was standing where, or do you go by where U1 and U2 stand for warmups, or is there something else?
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Old Mon Jan 28, 2002, 11:40pm
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So, basically, U1 and U2 stay on the side (North-South) of the gym they were working on (relative to each other)?

After halftime, do you remember who was standing where, or do you go by where U1 and U2 stand for warmups, or is there something else?
U2 goes to the visiting team's end, U1 to the home team end.
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Old Tue Jan 29, 2002, 08:03am
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{QUOTE]At the end of a 1st qtr., the R will secure the ball and go to the division line. The trail, or the center if the R was trail, will go to the top of the FT line at the opposite end. The L will go the top of the FT line on his ned of the floor. {QUOTE]

In my association, the Umpires have been directed to go to the blocks on the lanes facing the benches. Not explaining this very well but I will stand facing the bench, but the lane is between me and the bench.
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Old Tue Jan 29, 2002, 08:05am
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Obviously screwed that quote up. I was trying to quote only a portion of Tony's post rather than the whole post. Sorry.
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Old Tue Jan 29, 2002, 09:35am
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Honestly, I don't know why the Fed book says to go to the top of the FT line between periods but to the blocks during 60second time-outs. It seems to me that the blocks are the best choice, since we usually have to move to get out of the cheerleaders' way.
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