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FIBA wants that all basketball games played under their authority share the same rules, whether they are pro games in Italy, Croatia, Russia and so on or middle school games in Norway, Burkina Faso and China. This way of thinking is wrong, IMO (which has nothing to do with different grades of "civilization", of course): simply, middle schoolers don't need some rules that are made for pro games (24 seconds, for example) or they need modified versions of those rules. When they grow up, they'll be able to play faster and better, with greater competence both about play and rules. That's why coaches at a lower level are allowed to call time-outs (I believe this happens in FED, doesn't it?) while at higher levels they can't. In FIBA players are not allowed to call time-outs, for example, only coaches. Moreover, having a monolithical rule set forces local organizations to set their own variations to the rules: this happens all the time in Italy, where it is not required to have a shot clock for most middle and high school level games, with the effect that the shot clock rule is different than the one in the book. ![]() At the same time I think that having scores of different rule sets is not a good service to our game, nor having different signals for the same violation or foul (like for NCAA men and women): is Nevada high school basketball so different from Iowa's to justify different rule sets? Ciao |
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A different perspective......
Back in the mid-60's, several of us fooled around with FIBA rules. We actually joined FIBA for a while, but gave it up as not being worth the money. At that time, anybody could join but you still had to be certified before you supposedly were able to do international games. FIBA at that time was basically a one-man show. A guy named Williams Jones basically ran everything, and did so from the late 40's for over 40 years before he finally retired(or died) iirc. He was based in Berlin and everything flowed from there. The story going around back then was that Jones absolutely hated the USA for some reason. He supposedly had told different people that FIBA would never go to any version of US rules while he was involved with FIBA.
True or not, I've heard almost the same version over the years from different sources. What is true is that FIBA is still very political in it's thinking. |
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Really I do not see the big deal. Every organization should have the right to develop a rules set for their level. Even when you work JH or youth leagues there are rules they make to accommodate the lack of ability for their players and coaches. I work football and there are many rules at the youth level that simply protects the kids from a safety standpoint. Basketball does not always have those same ways of thinking, but there is something very different about working a JH game and a HS varsity game. The player’s level of understanding is so different. Peace
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High schools in the US are controlled by the individual states, not the federal government. All of their sports are also controlled at the state level. In order to completely mesh, the two states would have to get together and decide which rules to change so they both match perfectly. The problem is, those in each state have set their rules according to their own personal philosophies, institutional goals, and desires of the coaches, athletic directors, administrators, politicians (to a certain extent), etc. Then, multiply this difficulty by 50 to cover all the states. I don’t think it's really a problem, though, as the rule variations are subtle and minor. The average fan wouldn't notice them. Things like leaving the bottom space open on free throws verses leaving the top space open. Also, they allow one state to "experiment" with a change. If it's successful, then other states can copy it.
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FIBA, NCAA, NFHS, (and possibly the NBA) could unify their rules quite easily if the wanted to but to do so would make the people involved in most of them redundant and no longer needed. The egos of those in each of those groups are too large for them to go down a path that eliminates thier uniqueness.
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There is no good reason for the definitions to be different, the penalties for infractions to be different, or the protocols to be different. Of course you can dispense with elements of the protocols as the level dictates (we already do that with NFHS rules for some types of games anyway). Quote:
Again, it wouldn't be hard to have one set of rules for game play and an appendix to cover the very few things that need to be different (diminsions, timing, POE).
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