Do twinkies in your neck of the woods look like this?
http://www.utvols.com/blog/uploaded_...kie-755573.jpg

I'd make a comment about the cream filling, but I don't want to start a thread of Larry Craig jokes. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...ges/toetap.gif

dave hall's camp was definitely teaching pinch the paint techniques and it had nothing to do with the gender of the teams we were refereeing

Was that his position on playing shirts and skins? Oh wait - that's a different thread. Sorry. :p

How did I know once Padgett posted we wouldn't be talking about the same topic anymore? :D Now that I reflect it has been on the women's side that I'm hearing about it (I'm working women's and trying to keep it in the assignor's head that I'd like to work men's). My main assignor for high school ball is a women's official so that explains why it was stressed there. I can definitely see the advantage of the better angle, but it is going to take time to build that habit after years of staying out of the paint.

Now about that Madame Candy lady....can I get a number and address? Winter is mighty cold here in Iowa.

I believe this mentality was started in the SEC, back in Gurfrie's days and it make a lot of sence. It also give you a better look at plays that you normally not see due to bad angles.:D

And when officials that came from that system would go to other camps, they would be told to stop using them. I have been to camps in the south and in the Midwest and much of Gurfrie's mechanics were widely frowned upon.

Peace

I guess when you were in Rome, you did what Romans did!!!!!

I don't know about Rut, but I'm pretty sure Padgett did as the Romans did; otherwise he risked a very unpleasant conversation with Caesar.

Its funny how these terms evolve. I'm sure not all of them are exactly the same, but for the most part they are -- at least in terms of trying to get a better look. Years ago, we called this "stepping into the pocket." However, I will concede this was primarily for the C and T, not the L. So again, things do change and get more technical, but the idea is basically the same.

Check the latest hires in past several years of the NBA, the majority came from Gufirie's system, so apparently someone ain't frowning on em.

CLH

This concept got a lot of attention at a camp I was at in Florida this summer. Almost all the clinicians were NCAA men's officials and they were really stressing it.

Pinching was added to NCAA-W last year. We were told that it came from the NBA and WNBA...it is for "help" purposes only - not for reffing your primary area or competitive match-ups as Lead. In other words, the drive from C's side when a secondary defender steps over from L's side - you get a fantastic angle on that secondary defender by stepping into the paint momentarily...of course, after that play you get back out of there asap.

And I agree that it is VERY hard to get used to doing. After years of being told "Stay out of the paint", now we're told "Why didn't you pinch the paint on that play?"

Those individuals were not at an NBA camp. So what the NBA thinks and what the NCAA thinks is not quite the same thing. And if you talk people in the NCAA, they do not look highly on officials in that league just because they are in the NBA. Kind of like, "When in Rome...."

Peace

Her email is [email protected]. :rolleyes: