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Scrapper1 Tue Oct 23, 2007 02:02pm

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Originally Posted by btaylor64
Doesn't this seem like too much to process in a split second?

Not if you already know where the defense is.

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Wouldn't this be much better if there was a guideline in place for this such as, "if in transition between the baseline in the backcourt and tip of circle in the frontcourt, all plays of this nature will be deemed block as this is a way of drawing a cheap offensive foul by hoping to establish LGP before the player has a chance to turn to see the defender."
No, it wouldn't be better. And anyway, that's a totally lame "guideline". The player with the ball has to expect to be guarded. If you catch the ball, you have to expect that somebody's there to guard you. If a defender has LGP and you don't see him, that's your fault.

Adam Tue Oct 23, 2007 02:32pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
And anyway, that's a totally lame "guideline".

You misspelled "stupid." Where's that annoying spelling guy when you need him?

Adam Tue Oct 23, 2007 02:33pm

FCOL, on this play, even if time and distance were required, it looks like a charge. "A few steps" is, by definition, at least 2. The requirement in the rules is "no more than 1 or 2."

Bearfanmike20 Tue Oct 23, 2007 02:47pm

I believe it is a player control Charge.

I havn't looked at the rest of the replies yet.. I hope I'm right. ;)

Jurassic Referee Tue Oct 23, 2007 02:49pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Travel? ;)

No call?
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Jimgolf Wed Oct 24, 2007 03:37pm

The original post doesn't specify whether or not the player catching the ball is in the air when the ball is caught. Does this make a difference on the ruling? The case play cited seems to make a distinction.

Adam Wed Oct 24, 2007 04:03pm

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Originally Posted by Jimgolf
The original post doesn't specify whether or not the player catching the ball is in the air when the ball is caught. Does this make a difference on the ruling? The case play cited seems to make a distinction.

The OP states the defense set up "a few steps" away from the offense. Even if time and distance is required; it's met in the OP, as it can never require more than 2 steps.

Mark Padgett Wed Oct 24, 2007 04:49pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Travel? ;)

That's called the "Earl Strom call". In his book, he says he would make that call. His rationalization was that if you call either a block or a charge, you're going to get one of the teams extremely upset with you, but if you call a travel, everyone's anger kind of deflates, no one gets charged with a foul and the penalty (a turnover) is not a big deal.

What a way to make a decision. However, he sure lasted a long time by doing stuff like this.


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