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Mark Padgett Wed Oct 17, 2007 02:22pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bgtg19
This whole "no overtime" notion is a matter of integrity. As officials, we should be above reproach. Suggesting that officials compromise their integrity, even as a joke, does a disservice to the officiating community and to the games they serve.

HEY EVERYONE -

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Splute Wed Oct 17, 2007 02:49pm
geesh, I wondered when our integrity would be questioned. C'mon guys, do you really believe that the officials that post on this site officiate that way? Give them some credit. No one spends this much time, energy and devotion to baskeball and officiating to rob kids of their time on the court. GET REAL!

Now isnt that a pretty Smiley Sun from Mark? :)

Adam Wed Oct 17, 2007 03:07pm
Good grief.
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bigdog5142 Wed Oct 17, 2007 03:24pm
WOW! Let's get those panties pulled out of that bunch! If we lose the ability to laugh at ourselves...then we don't need to do what we do. (I have had some old guys come up to me and be TOTALLY SERIOUS about the no overtime thing, though. Now THAT'S frustrating!)

Scrapper1 Wed Oct 17, 2007 03:48pm
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Originally Posted by bigdog5142
(I have had some old guys come up to me and be TOTALLY SERIOUS about the no overtime thing, though. Now THAT'S frustrating!)
And maybe that's exactly why some people have said that they don't think it's really all that funny of a joke.

Mark Padgett Wed Oct 17, 2007 03:54pm
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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
And maybe that's exactly why some people have said that they don't think it's really all that funny of a joke.
Hey - he said "OLD GUYS". That has nothing to do with us.

Yeah, suuuuuuure. :p

Jurassic Referee Wed Oct 17, 2007 05:28pm
Hope this will help some of you tight-azzes.......

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JoeTheRef Wed Oct 17, 2007 06:08pm
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Originally Posted by bgtg19
I don't get paid for working regulation minutes. I get paid for working a game. Overtime is part of the game (O.K., some games). If the play of the game dictates that it should go into overtime, I sure as heck am not going to make sure that there is no overtime. To do otherwise is dishonest.

I get, Mark, that you post primarily for the sake of humor. And I think eyezen probably understood clearly your point. He was just adding his opinion (to BillyMac's) that your point, even if comical, is wrong-headed.

This whole "no overtime" notion is a matter of integrity. As officials, we should be above reproach. Suggesting that officials compromise their integrity, even as a joke, does a disservice to the officiating community and to the games they serve.

I do appreciate the humor on this site, and I don't want that to change. But the humor I appreciate is the humor that does not require us to believe the worst in people. Except for Old School. We can believe the worst in him. Kidding.... :o
He was probably kidding...Lighten up... We, or the majority of us feel the same way you do.

Dan_ref Wed Oct 17, 2007 06:31pm
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Originally Posted by rainmaker
That's not the kind of "wrong" or "indecisive" he's referring to. Calling the OOB decisively, and then looking decisively at your partners to help you get it right is fine. Indecisive is weak whistle, sloppy mechanics, debating in your mind before signalling -- you know, like me!
I wish you people in the upper lefthand corner of the country would make up your mind.

Is it a joke or not?

BillyMac Wed Oct 17, 2007 06:43pm
Volunteer
 
From Mark Padgett: "I always felt that if you want to work for free, go volunteer somewhere."

I do. Every year I officiate at the Special Olympics Unified Games, for free. Also, when assigned, I officiate the Doc Hurley Classic Scholarship Tournament (Hartford, CT), also for free. I also officiate, again for free, as many scrimmages, both preseason and pretournment, as I can fit into my schedule. I don't mind giving back to the sport that I have loved for over 40 years.

I know that I should "lighten up", but this anti-overtime sentiment, whether it's done in jest, or for real, really "yanks my chain", especially when nonofficials hear about it.

Mark Dexter Wed Oct 17, 2007 09:30pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac
I do. Every year I officiate at the Special Olympics Unified Games, for free. Also, when assigned, I officiate the Doc Hurley Classic Scholarship Tournament (Hartford, CT), also for free. I also officiate, again for free, as many scrimmages, both preseason and pretournment, as I can fit into my schedule. I don't mind giving back to the sport that I have loved for over 40 years.
Doc Hurley's a great tournament. Didn't realize that you Central CT guys worked it for free, but it's probably worth the experience of getting to call that good of a game in the Civic Center. I'll never forget when I went along with my school's varsity team in 2000.

Idaho Wed Oct 17, 2007 09:40pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Hope this will help some of you tight-azzes.......

http://www.holyconservancy.org/images/setupz.gif
JR,

I can't find that file installed anywhere on my computer even though it says it installed succesfully. Any help?

rainmaker Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:24am
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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
I wish you people in the upper lefthand corner of the country would make up your mind.

Is it a joke or not?
First you say he's wrong, now you accuse us of being indecisive. Is this some kind of joke?!?

Actually, I'm not sure why he said it was a joke. He says it seriously, and with some good illustrations to help understand the principle. And really, for such a dweeb, he's got a pretty good principle, don't you think?

Dan_ref Thu Oct 18, 2007 06:13am
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Originally Posted by rainmaker
First you say he's wrong, now you accuse us of being indecisive. Is this some kind of joke?!?

Actually, I'm not sure why he said it was a joke. He says it seriously, and with some good illustrations to help understand the principle. And really, for such a dweeb, he's got a pretty good principle, don't you think?
I already said I disagree with this principle.

rainmaker Thu Oct 18, 2007 09:42am
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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
I already said I disagree with this principle.
I thought perhaps after I'd explicated the vocabulary as Mark intended it, you'd see it differently.

Of course, the crew should get it right all the time. But that's not always going to happen. Sometimes, they're gonna get it wrong. But there should never be any waffling or hedging or debating. Discussion when there's a disagreement isn't the same as indecisiveness.


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