Illegal dribble interpretation
Tonight we had our rules clinic. With regard to our recent 400 page, 9,000 post
discussion, http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...e+pass+to+self I posed the following situation to : Mac Chauvin Assistant Commissioner Coordinates Officials, Oversees all Basketball Louisiana High School Athletic Association A1 has used his dribble. He is guarded by B1. He forgets and pushes the ball to the floor to start another dribble. When does the violation occur? a. When it .............. He cut me off here. "As soon as he puts it down." Double checking, I said, "Soon as it hits the floor?" "Right." "It doesn't have to touch his hand again?" "No." "I can quote you on this, right?" "You can put it in the paper tomorrow." |
So you are saying that he doesn't agree with Howard Mayo up in Portland? :D
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You can take the strictly literal reading of the rules and argue it's a violation as soon as the ball is batted or pushed to the floor, which I think you do. Or you can take the realistic approach and wait to make sure nothing else happens before A1 touches the ball again, as most of the rest of the planet does. But waiting for the ball to hit the floor...? Nah. |
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
When does the violation occur? As soon has "he puts the ball down." When can an official know that the violation has occurred? As soon as the player touches the ball again. Two separate issues, with two distinct answers. (For the cognoscenti, it's the same difference between metaphysics and epistemology.) A very rough parallel would be a borderline foul. When does the foul occur? At the moment of contact. When do we know that marginal contact is a foul? When we see the contact put the other team at a disadvantage. On the other hand, you're all correct in a way, so my answer's bound to make you unhappy. :p |
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What's the definition of dribble for NFHS? Ciao |
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I think the point is that one would not call violation on someone who is bounce passing to another player or opponent. Which would involve batting or pushing a ball to the floor possibly following the end of a dribble.
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Would you like to lock this thread, or should I. |
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(much of it numerous times) Everything that I have posted on this subject comes straight out of the books. Am I reading the rule too literally? Perhaps. But apparently I am not the only one. Sometimes it is comforting to have an ally in a high place. I found one. |
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