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Dan_ref Thu Jan 24, 2002 02:10pm

I work with a guy who has a very colorful vocabulary.
So the ball goess OOB, he calls "Blue" and points. I jog
over and ask "Did you get a good look at it? Maybe I can
help?" He says "You came all the m&^@&@f&chin' way over
here to ask if I need some m&^@&@f&chin' help??!! Sh!t yeah
I need some m&^@&@f&chin' help! White ball! White!"
Well, it was funny at the time.

Ridge Wiz Thu Jan 24, 2002 02:38pm

I'm new to officiating but I'm glad to know the most of these post replies are concerned with getting the right call and not if someone get "showed up". These kind of post make me feel more comfortable to, at leasts, talk to my more experienced partner when I think I see something different.

Mark Padgett Thu Jan 24, 2002 02:51pm

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Originally posted by Ridge Wiz
I'm new to officiating but I'm glad to know the most of these post replies are concerned with getting the right call and not if someone get "showed up". These kind of post make me feel more comfortable to, at leasts, talk to my more experienced partner when I think I see something different.
I like your signature: "Go hard or go home." I once had a girl say that to me in high school. BTW - I didn't go home. ;)

Mark Dexter Thu Jan 24, 2002 04:13pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett

I like your signature: "Go hard or go home." I once had a girl say that to me in high school. BTW - I didn't go home. ;)

(Insert obligatory Viagra joke here.)

ChuckElias Thu Jan 24, 2002 04:18pm

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Originally posted by Ridge Wiz
These kind of post make me feel more comfortable to, at leasts, talk to my more experienced partner when I think I see something different.
Just a tip, Wiz. Don't go to your partner if you think you saw something. In my pregame, I say "If you come to me, it's b/c you're 100% sure that I got it wrong. If you're not 100% sure, don't come."

Why? Because I don't want to have an NFL-style, 5-minute conference about what you thought you saw and what I thought I saw. If you're sure I missed it, come and tell me what you have. Otherwise, let me live and die with I called.

Chuck

Bart Tyson Thu Jan 24, 2002 04:46pm

here is just a little different take and i know i might get some grief. I trust my partners. If they start toward me to change a call, I'm changing it. It is a matter of mechanics to come to me. If my changing the call is wrong, then its on my partner. I try not to go to my partner in the 1st half. You don't want two corrections in a game. Those of you who have had that happen know what i am talking about. On a side note, I had a HS game recently where I was a lead, shot right in front of me( my primary), def. in front and back of the shooter, I saw the girl in front foul the shooter on the arm just below the wrist, not hard but cause the shot short. Double whistle, Lead and Trail. I yell 11-white, as i start out to report my partner says 32, I stop and said what did you say ( i didn't understand what he was saying) he said the foul is on 32. SO, i report foul on 32. Now i don't think he should have done that because i know i had a foul on 11, however, its possible the obvious foul might have been on 32, I was watching the girl in front. Again, I trust my partners.

Mark Dexter Thu Jan 24, 2002 04:49pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Why? Because I don't want to have an NFL-style, 5-minute conference about what you thought you saw and what I thought I saw.
I've had these in flag football.

Not fun.

Mark Padgett Thu Jan 24, 2002 04:59pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett

I like your signature: "Go hard or go home." I once had a girl say that to me in high school. BTW - I didn't go home. ;)

(Insert obligatory Viagra joke here.)

What do you get when you mix Viagra with Rogain? You get hair like Don King.

Mark Dexter Thu Jan 24, 2002 05:01pm

Thankfully I've never seen that combination at the pharmacy.

Mark Dexter Sun Jan 27, 2002 09:14am

Part II
 
Friday night - 2nd of 4 games.

A is passing the ball around in their frontcourt. I'm at trail, and my partner (lead) blows the whistle when the ball goes off of B and hits the bottom of the backboard. I clearly saw that it hit the bottom, so I went over to try to talk to him about the rule. When I was standing right next to him, he put the ball in play, and then had to blow it dead realizing we needed to talk. Needless to say, the call was not changed.

At the next timeout, all the other staff was reaming me out for trying to get this guy to change the call - saying it "looks bad" (of course, they didn't know that the bottom isn't OOB). So, this sort of thing is bad, but it's fine for the trail official to whistle the OOB on my line at lead. :rolleyes:

Sorry for the venting. Just consider this part 49198471 of why to never work rec ball.

devdog69 Sun Jan 27, 2002 11:35am

Quote:

Originally posted by Bart Tyson
here is just a little different take and i know i might get some grief. I trust my partners. If they start toward me to change a call, I'm changing it. It is a matter of mechanics to come to me. If my changing the call is wrong, then its on my partner. I try not to go to my partner in the 1st half. You don't want two corrections in a game. Those of you who have had that happen know what i am talking about. On a side note, I had a HS game recently where I was a lead, shot right in front of me( my primary), def. in front and back of the shooter, I saw the girl in front foul the shooter on the arm just below the wrist, not hard but cause the shot short. Double whistle, Lead and Trail. I yell 11-white, as i start out to report my partner says 32, I stop and said what did you say ( i didn't understand what he was saying) he said the foul is on 32. SO, i report foul on 32. Now i don't think he should have done that because i know i had a foul on 11, however, its possible the obvious foul might have been on 32, I was watching the girl in front. Again, I trust my partners.
Bart, I agree with your outlook on changing the o.b. call, in trying to not do it in the first half. My philosophy is slightly different but very similar. I view it sort of like the red flag for a challenge in NFL football and only give myself one a game and even then only if I am 110% sure that my partner missed it. Friday night, varsity girls game the ball was poked out of bounds by a girl standing in my area but the ball went out on my partners line. I was sure no one else had touched it and he signalled the other direction. I very quickly decided to let it lie, it was in the first quarter of the game, the first of a double-header and I wanted to save my red flag for a more important time in the game if I needed it. Luckily, I never had to use it. This is not to say that I wouldn't do it twice if I had too, but the situation would have to be extraordinary. See my post on how the rest of my evening turned out, titled, Friday night.


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