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Coop Fri Jan 18, 2002 03:09pm

The boys are warming up @ halftime of the girls game in HS. There is a dunk and everyone sees it including your crew.
What is the call? Is it a "T"???

BktBallRef Fri Jan 18, 2002 03:24pm

No, it's not. This is a game management issue. The boys who are dunking are simply boys, as you have a girls game being played. You have no jurisdiction over them. At the most, you can have game manangement remove them from the floor.

Hawks Coach Fri Jan 18, 2002 03:42pm

If game management allows non-participants in the current game on the court at halftime, what jurisdiction do you have? They have the same staus as the pom squad don't they? As long as they don't prevent a team from warming up and the AD lets them on the floor, what do you care what they do?

ref5678 Fri Jan 18, 2002 03:50pm

NO T u have no jurdistiction

zebraman Fri Jan 18, 2002 04:24pm

You could ask game management to not let players warm up at halftime, but you can't enforce game rules on kids who aren't part of your game.

Z

Hawks Coach Fri Jan 18, 2002 04:31pm

What if I have my varsity boys team do a slam dunk competition at halftime of my girls varsity game? what would you ask game management to do? where can you call anything?

Dave Brost Fri Jan 18, 2002 05:04pm

Coach, I hear what you are saying. However, I think that in the best interest of the game, you should not have boys dunking during half-time of a girls game. You are telling them that they cannot dunk in their own pregame, but they can dunk during the girls game. I think the reason they do not allow dunking during warmups is to protect the players from injuries, (those trying to dunk who really cannot), and to protect equipment from being broken. This is not a matter that the officials should be dealing with at all. It is a game management situation, and they should handle it as they see fit. Hopefully, it is in everybodies best interest.

Bart Tyson Fri Jan 18, 2002 11:09pm

Does anyone realy know why they don't allow dunks in warmups? I don't think it is a safty issue or they wouldn't allow it during the game. As far as the girls half time, who cares, let them have fun.

BktBallRef Sat Jan 19, 2002 12:40am

Of course it a safety issue. Duyring a game, dunking is legal. But if you make it legal during warmups, every kid on the team is going to try and dunk. The increase in broken backboards would be tremendous.

Hawks Coach Sat Jan 19, 2002 02:00am

These kids spend hours on the court each week, and we are concerned with a 15 minute time period? Like they can't dunk like madmen for an hour before you ever see them. Warm-up for practice every day when I was in high school was an impromptu slam dunk contest - not that my 5-7, non-jumping @$$ was ever in it! I should add that this was sophomore year on because dunking was illegal my freshman year. Once they made it legal to dunk, they by default said it was safe.

I have to admit, I have never seen this as a safety or equipment issue, but one of policing hotdogging in the name of sportsmanship (Probably by a bunch of people who don't like behind-the-back dribbles either :) ).

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Jan 19, 2002 10:00pm

Whenever I have a situation like the one in the original posting, I just aske the boys if they shave their legs everyday? If they say yes they can stay on the court, if they say no, they have to leave.

MOFFICIAL Sun Jan 20, 2002 06:41pm

Please allow me to twist this a little. Suppose the varsity and Jvarsity come on the same bus. The JV are dressing and officials are present on the floor and varsity boy dunks.
What have you got then?

ref5678 Sun Jan 20, 2002 07:50pm

Since the varsity gam has not started you cant t up the varsity player however for the sake of the game you should ask game management to remove them from the floor

Mark Dexter Sun Jan 20, 2002 09:12pm

Quote:

Originally posted by MOFFICIAL
Please allow me to twist this a little. Suppose the varsity and Jvarsity come on the same bus. The JV are dressing and officials are present on the floor and varsity boy dunks.
What have you got then?

Nothing. The official's authority for the varsity game starts when the varsity refs come on to the floor.

ReadyToRef Tue Jan 22, 2002 12:47pm

I could be wrong but I always thought the intent of the rule was to keep the crowd from becoming too rambunctious before the game started.


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