Shooting Violation!?

[JCoach31]

Can an official call a violation on the crowd (a band member blowing his trumpet)when a player missed the shot when shooting a free throw during a 1 and 1 and allowing him to shot again?
The rule book states:
Music/ Sound Effects / Artificial noisemakers (1-18)
While most state associations specifically address this issue, to ensure consistency and in the interest of fairness, the prohibition regarding music and artificial noisemakers now exists. With the intrusive and disruptive nature of audio packages which exist with many new scoreboards and through public address systems capable of playing varied sound effects, this prohibition will result in schools and game officials being able to consistently control what occurs during a game.
The prohibition against artificial noisemakers, including buit not limited to, megaphones, cowbells, sirens, 'clackers', cans with marbles or rocks inside, and varied other creative, albeit cacophonic, devices provides additional rules support for an increasingly serious problem.
Home or game management is responsible for
enforcement.


Where in this rule does it state that the shooter should reshoot? Should the official give a warning to the home coach about the noise and have the PA announcer advise the crowd against the problem?

JCoach31

[Jeremy Hohn]

This is a tough one. Most of the time, kids are stupid enough to start that junk early in the game. They aren't going to "save" it for late in the ballgame. I don't see where they would reshoot in this situation. I have had to confiscate cheerleader megaphones from a group of football players earlier this season, because they were stomping them against the bleachers. Get this one taken care of early and you won't have to worry about the end of the game situation...

[williebfree]

An official should NOT call a violation on any fan. The official should inform game management and let them deal with the "offenders".

[Bart Tyson]

College, warning and then a T. Is this not the same procedure in HS?

[Peter Devana]

I agree with Williebefree- Don't get personally involved with the fans- let Management handle it and deal with it the first time it happens!
Pistol

[Slider]

Under the rules for disconcertion and FT violations, there is nothing about crowds. The player does not get a substitute FT even if you give a T for supporter behavior (but DON'T).

If a T was issued before the shot was in flight, then you would "re-do" that FT, since the ball was dead when the T occurred.

[Sven]

A similar situation occurred a few years ago at the local high school. During the shooting motion of the first of two free throws by B1, the inexperienced PA announcer (a high school student, who didn't know better, but should have), spoke loudly and clearly into the microphone, something like "...and he misses!"

It was a pretty quiet gym at the time, so everyone heard it. Surprised the heck out of all of us, including the shooter, who bricked the shot. Official came over to the table, got an explanation and apology from the PA boy and the the home coach/athletic director (both of whom were very embarrassed).

Official indicated it had better not happen again (it didn't) and awarded a substitute throw. No technical was called.

It wasn't by the book, but it seemed fair. The official could have ignored it. Probably could have issued a technical on the bench (although the PA announcer was at the scorer's table).

I think he did the right thing.

Sven

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by Bart Tyson
College, warning and then a T. Is this not the same procedure in HS?

College reference?

[Slider]

Originally posted by Sven
It wasn't by the book, but it seemed fair. The official could have ignored it. Probably could have issued a technical on the bench (although the PA announcer was at the scorer's table).

I think he did the right thing.

Sven [/B]

For NFHS:

If the act by a "supporter" is enough to cause the player to miss, then I have technical on the supporter; but it better be a flagrant act that can't be ignored.

BTW, you can't have a bench technical if the act is by someone who is not part of the bench.

So, the coach would not lose use of the box.

[PAULK1]

SEE case book page 2, 1.18 it tells you how to handle this
situation. If it happens just prior to the release you may want to blow the play dead and get game management involved at that time. Once the ball has been released there is no provisions to reshoot and you still need to get game management involved.

[Slider]

Good points PAULK1, yes, I should have said call it dead if it is before the release.