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FrankHtown Mon Jul 16, 2007 02:40pm

Substitution for an injured player...and there are no substitutes
 
The earlier thread reminded me of a game I was watching yesterday. Boy's 8th Grade. Team A had only 5 players. A1 gets fouled while shooting and goes down. Coach is beckened on to the court, player gets up and shoots his free throws. I was wondering though...who shoots them if he was unable to continue? One of the four players left on the floor?

blindzebra Mon Jul 16, 2007 02:54pm

Yes...one of the four.

Adam Mon Jul 16, 2007 03:04pm

And don't let the opposing coach tell you he gets to pick the shooter.

Jurassic Referee Mon Jul 16, 2007 03:06pm

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Originally Posted by FrankHtown
Team A had only 5 players. A1 gets fouled while shooting and goes down. <font color = red>Coach is beckoned on to the court, player gets up and shoots his free throws.</font> I was wondering though...who shoots them if he was unable to continue? One of the four players left on the floor?

Does team A have to take a timeout to keep A1 in the game?

Instead of taking a TO, can they play with four and bring A1 back in on the first substitution opportunity after the clock has run? Or maybe after the first FT is over?

blindzebra Mon Jul 16, 2007 03:14pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Does team A have to take a timeout to keep A1 in the game?

Instead of taking a TO, can they play with four and bring A1 back in on the first substitution opportunity after the clock has run? Or maybe after the first FT is over?

If the coach was beckened yes, they need to take a TO for A1 to shoot his FTs.

If A1 leaves because of injury and there is no sub, yes they may play with 4, and A1 can't return until the next opportunity to sub after the clock has started and stopped.

Jurassic Referee Mon Jul 16, 2007 03:18pm

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Originally Posted by blindzebra
If the coach was beckened yes, they need to take a TO for A1 to shoot his FTs.

If A1 leaves because of injury and there is no sub, yes they may play with 4, and A1 can't return until the next opportunity to sub after the clock has started and stopped.

Anybody disagree with that?

JRutledge Mon Jul 16, 2007 05:22pm

I believe I do.
 
If a team calls a timeout right after an injury, I do not believe the player has to wait for any time to run off the clock and the next opportunity to come back in the game. The rule was changed to allow the player to stay in the game and the team to use a timeout to do so. Obviously the player was not subbed in for at this time.

Peace

blindzebra Mon Jul 16, 2007 05:26pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
If a team calls a timeout right after an injury, I do not believe the player has to wait for any time to run off the clock and the next opportunity to come back in the game. The rule was changed to allow the player to stay in the game and the team to use a timeout to do so. Obviously the player was not subbed in for at this time.

Peace

You want to re-read what I wrote?

A1 is fouled, gets hurt, coach is beckoned.

At this point A1 must leave or team A must use a TO.

If they don't call a TO, one of their remaining 4 players shoots the FTs and they play 4 on 5 until the next substitution opportunity after time has run.

That's what I wrote...both times.:rolleyes:

JRutledge Mon Jul 16, 2007 05:35pm

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Originally Posted by blindzebra
You want to re-read what I wrote?

A1 is fouled, gets hurt, coach is beckoned.

At this point A1 must leave or team A must use a TO.

If they don't call a TO, one of their remaining 4 players shoots the FTs and they play 4 on 5 until the next substitution opportunity after time has run.

That's what I wrote...both times.:rolleyes:

You really need to stop being so sensitive when someone responds to your posts.

It sounds like to me that you were saying that if they call a timeout that they had to wait. This post clarifies that is not exactly what you meant. It was just confusing that that is all and you clarified it.

I also did not read the first comment, I read the second comment. Take some downers and calm down. It will be OK.

Peace

blindzebra Mon Jul 16, 2007 05:46pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
You really need to stop being so sensitive when someone responds to your posts.

It sounds like to me that you were saying that if they call a timeout that they had to wait. This post clarifies that is not exactly what you meant. It was just confusing that that is all and you clarified it.

I also did not read the first comment, I read the second comment. Take some downers and calm down. It will be OK.

Peace

Dude, it was so COMPLETELY CLEAR that I'm sure Old School got it...not surprised you didn't.

How can the words, "If the coach is beckoned they need to call a TO for A1 to shoot his FTs," followed by, "IF A1 leaves he must wait," be confused with he has to wait if they call a TO?

bob jenkins Mon Jul 16, 2007 07:49pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Anybody disagree with that?

It sounds good to me.

Nevadaref Mon Jul 16, 2007 08:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindzebra
If the coach was beckened yes, they need to take a TO for A1 to shoot his FTs.

If A1 leaves because of injury and there is no sub, yes they may play with 4, and A1 can't return until the next opportunity to sub after the clock has started and stopped.

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Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mon Jul 16, 2007 08:53pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Anybody disagree with that?


JR:

I don't disagree. BUT Old School hasn't chimed in with his two cents.

MTD, Sr.


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