7th grade boys, very competitive teams, although one was quite a bit ahead. One coach I tossed last year, and these teams have a rivalry, so I knew ahead of time it would be an intense game. Coach B (who I tossed last year) yelled some, but always backed down, and always accepted an explanation.

Coach A was your definitive Howler Monkey. He started howlin' before the tip and didn't stop until he was out the door. I explained a little, warned once, and then middle of third quarter, WHACK! He was out on the floor, questioning my intelligence, easy call. I reminded him twice to sit, but other than that he toned it down some and the amazing thing was that (as always) his team was coming back. They were connecting on passes, making shots, they got a couple of steals, fewer (not less, Mark...oops! I said I wouldn't mention it... Sorry!) fouls, were within seven points with plenty of time, when the howling started again. I'd had it up to here.

Now the assistant takes over -- including the howling!! I warned him once - "Coach, even though he's gone, you're still the assistant and may not yell at us AT ALL." But he had to get his licks in about one play later, he says, "I get it! They get three fouls before you give them a call." Bingo, bango, bongo --two coaches standing in the hall. And of course, A team lost.

I've backed off the T's this year, but I've still got it in me...

You go girl! :)

I changed my signature that appears at the bottom of each post earlier today. Considering your game, my timing couldn't have been better! :D

Good job,Juulie! You did Padgett proud(mis-use of diction intended,btw).:D:You can back off of T's,but you don't have to take that crap.

Good work. Did team A have another assistant coach to finish the game? If not I would have called it a forfeit.

If you can find an adult who can finish coaching the game without any liability problems, let 'em play. It's not the kids' fault that their coach is a jerk. They are 7th graders with a couple of poor sports for coaches. But they came to play. If the game is stopped, the coaches don't lose, the kids do.

Oh yeah, and don't ever end one early in Cleveland, or in any league where Tags is the commish.

still the assistant
 

Where do you find the rationale that the assistant coach, after the head coach has been ejected, may not yell at you? He is now the acting head coach, and must be given the same respect that the other head coaches were given during the game.

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We have to respect the coaches? :D Maybe when they start respecting us . . .

Has anyone gotten an interpretation on this one? (I know it came up a month or two ago.) If A's coach is ejected, is the new coach now seatbelted? Does he take over any indirect technicals? Etc., etc.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mark Dexter

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Has anyone gotten an interpretation on this one? (I know it came up a month or two ago.) If A's coach is ejected, is the new coach now seatbelted? Does he take over any indirect technicals? Etc., etc.

He does not inherit the previous coach's indirects, but he is seatbelted.

Chuck

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What rule is that from (if any)? If the coach is now seatbelted, I would assume he gets the rest of the head coach rights/responsibilities as well (request TO, etc.)

10-5 Penalty
When the coaching box is being utilized, then the first technical foul charged directly or indirectly to the head coach results in loss of the coaching-box privileges and the coach shall comply with the provisions of Articles 1 and 2 <B>for the remainder of the game.</b>

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He's not seatbelted b/c he inherited any indirects. He's seatbelted simply b/c only one person gets to use the coaching box. And that one person has just exited the premises.

Chuck

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Where do you find the rationale that says any coach can yell at you?

People who yell at me don't get any respect. I don't put up with head coaches who yell at me and I don't put up with asst. coaches who yell at me. If an asst. doesn't have any better sense than to do the same thing that his boss just got tossed for, he probably won't be around long either.

Julie or anyone....

Plz clarify, did the assistant get tossed because you wacked him twice ?? Doesn't he get 2 Direct Technicals as well ???

allow me to add my 2 cents. If the coaching box is being used, it is in use for the whole game, correct? The head coach is designated at the start of the game, correct? If the head coach can not continue for whatever reason...the coaching box is still in affect, correct?If the coaching box privledge has been removed from team, for the entire game. No person is permitted to stand, with the exception of the head coach for any reason other than to greet a subisitute, stand during a 60-sec time out or to cheer for a great play. It does not however say that if a coach is ejected that an assitant get's promoted. Therefore the coaching box rule does apply, as does the standard of bench decorum that assistant coaches are not allowed to say anythign to the officials in a derogatory fashion

correct me if i'm wrong, please

Tyler

Once a technical foul has been assessed to anyone on the bench, the privilege of using the coaching box is gone for the remainder of the game. The asst. coach does not get to use it, just because the head coach got ejected.

I tossed him with only one T, but he didn't complain, and neither did the site supervisor. I think if he had argued, I could have called what he said flagrant, but I'm not sure it would have stood.

There was another coach on the bench -- imagine three coaches for one MS team. The boys didn't reflect the bad attitudes of the coaches, as kids will do at times, so I was glad there was another coach.

Tyler, I think you answered your own question here. No person, except the head coach is allowed to stand. And the head coach can only do it if he's in the coaching box. Now if the head coach cannot continue, then no one else is the head coach. Therefore no one else gets to use the coaching box. As I said previously, only one person (per team) is allowed to use the coaching box during a game.

Chuck

Julie:

This has nothing to do with your reply, but I am curious about your name as "rainmaker". Does this have to do with Portland and its Jan-Dec "rainfestival", or are you a lawyer by any chance? Just curious.

A few days before I started posting on this board, a coach asked me before a game, to please not rain on his parade. This was shortly after the big parade here, which being in early June, often has rain to contend with. And it was raining the day I started posting. Somehow, it all fell together into the above.

I thought the "rainfestival" in River City started in mid November and lasted until the end of March.

Like the bumper sticker says: I was saving my money for a rainy day until I moved to Portland; now I'm broke!

I survived up there for three years. Great people, great restaurants, great air, great scenery, lousy weather.

Come on, lousy weather? It rains more in Miami, Florida and for more days out of the year than it does in Portland, OR.

I was born with webs between my toes (figuratively speaking) and moss on my back, so the weather doesn't bother me. Seriously, I do suffer from Seasonal Affective Disorder -- in August!

Since you put "figuratively speaking" after the webbed-toe remark, and not after the moss on the back remark, are we to assume that you really were born with moss on your back? ;)

Not born with, but around here it can take root and grow at a very young age. I wear green a lot, since some people are offendcd by the look of it. ;)