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Old Fri Jan 04, 2002, 11:08am
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Re: happened at camp!

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YES! I was at a camp this summer, it was a high school varstiy up to D1 level camp. They did talk about no calls and when to make them. I have papers with that information on them, but in a clinitioned game (clinitioned by a 10 yr D1 official, state toureny, the works...) a 3 point shot went up, and while the shooter was still in "the act" his defender accidently stepped on his foot, it was the smallest contact, and I did not feel that the shooter was placed at a disadvantage because of it! But, my partner called the foul, basket was good, and we went to the line! The clinition told the reff that his call was a good one, I have wondered about it ever since, is it just me, or is that not right?
Doug, I'm having trouble seeing this play. How did B1
step on shooter A1's foot while he was "in the act"?
Was it a set shot? Did he step on his foot just as he
was going up for the shot?

Anyway, you didn't mention that the clinician discussed
who's call this was, so based on my experience at these
camps I'm thinking that this call was in your partner's
area and you were wise to have a no-call in this play.
Maybe your partner had the right call after all, who
knows, but why were there 4 eyes on the 3 point shooter?
See what I mean?
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2002, 11:50pm
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If I were King of the Rules of Basketball for one day, the first thing I would do is to ban the use of the phrase "no call." There is no such thing as a no call. I once heard Peter Webb (former member of the NFHS Rules Committee) state that there is no such thing as a "no call."

Peter stated it very clearly: The official must observe the play and decide if an infraction of the rules occured or not. If there was an infraction did occur then the official must stop the game and make his ruling.

The phrase "no call" implies that the official saw an infraction of the rules and decided not to penalize the offender thus putting the offended at a disadvantage.

We have to remember, basketball is not like soccer (thank goodness), it does not have the "advantage clause." It turns my stomach when I hear an official tell me had a no call.
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2002, 06:20pm
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