I totally agree. Although I think most of us have at least one game like this during the latter part our formative years. I know I did. It was late in the fourth quarter, the home team was getting killed, we'd already fouled out four of their starters, and I'm still having to call a lot of fouls. I even called a T with about 1:30 remaining. I hated that game, hated how it didn't flow, hated how it ended, and spent days racking my brains trying to figure out what more I could have done.

But it's all part of the learning process and now I know what you know: some games are just like that and all you can do is call the fouls.

I still hate those games.

I see, you want a job where you get to teach the young players how to play the game. hmmmm....what could that be...?

:rolleyes:

Here's the problem with your attitude: You mother a coach for 2 entire games, holding his hand, nurturing him, hugging him, trying to get him to see it your way....then he runs into someone who nails his @ss to the wall just as he's expecting the same high maintenance up close and personal treatment.

Is that fair to the coach? I don't think so.

So next time you want to play nurse-maid to a whining PITA coach let him know up front that you just happen to be a softy and most other officials wouldn't put up with his crap for more than 2 seconds.

This way I won't have to hear him whining across the court that all he wanted was an explanation as I'm walking to the other end to administer the 2 FTs to his opponent.

(You aint the only one btw...entirely too much explaining going on by lots of people.)

Those type of games are what formulated the Mick school of philosophy called "Get in, get done, get out." :)

And most of the time you're explaining it to someone who's only reason for asking in the first place is to try and get you to start calling the plays the way that they want it called. They're just trying to influence your calls to gain an advantage.

Silly monkeys.

Well, as usual, you're over-stating your case, but I get your point. I didn't say I wanted to talk more. I just have been working on talking and not-talking, and I"m trying to keep working on it. I get what you're saying about not talking so much, but it's just not my style, and hasn't worked well for me in the past. I was asking if there was anything more or different I might have said, but their probably wasn't. Now, will you just stfu, if I do too?

I'm overstating? You wrote this, I didn't.

Not one game, but two games of explaining?

And you want advice on what more you could have said?

Here's advice: call your game and don't apologize for it. One of the best officials I ever knew was fond of saying "This aint a debate coach, it's a basketball game".

Try it.

Gotcha.

I could see a point for that. Of course, most of my ejections have come in intramural ball - the supervisors have to write up the reports for those. :cool:

I think she's a hemisphere.

I explained twice in the first game, once in the second. I didn't ask what more, but IF there was something more OR DIFFERENT.

Yea, you're overstating. The whole PITA whining thing in your last post was quite over stated.

I did call my game, and I didn't apologize. Now, I'm calling my post and I'm not apologizing. But it's not working. See? I need to work on how to talk, not how much or how little. That's what I"m trying to work on. HOW to talk.

Obviously, my stfu didn't work, but sometimes it can, right? SO HOW DO I TALK? Get it??

Chicken soup?
 

Summer tournaments with rules adaptations suck. The only rule that applies is, "You can't make chicken soup out of chicken sh!t."

Go back to your very first post in this thread. Your initial response to a coach's question was "Coach, he was pushing and clearing out." After you say that, STFU. You answered his question. You also told the player what he did wrong with the same response. Anything after that is a debate. Don't do debates.

Get it now?

Don't. <b> </b>

My, My, My rainmaker...how far we have progressed.

Atta girl. :D

Or is that DIGRESSED.

I don't see what more you could have done to get the point across. Displacement, pushing, shoving, hands in the back, knee in the leg, elbow in the side...what didn't this coach/player understand? I might suggest he read the rulebook closely after the game.

I strongly disagree with the "no talking" philosophy espoused by some here. I have always found you can manage games better with a few carefully said words versus a stony silence. We need to understand that many coaches do not have a good grasp on the rules. Telling a player the correct rule only makes the game better for him/her and the next game official they have. I like hearing well timed, concise descriptions for players and coaches to explain common violations and fouls from an official...it tells me they give a sh*t, versus the cloistered monk school of silence officiating...this does not help the game.