Please Help...
 

I am starting to get back into my rule books, case books, etc. I know that Louisiana's test is all together different than everyone else's test but would anyone have any old test or tests that they would be willing to share with me. I want to see where I stand. This year will be my first year having to take the test and I am a bit nervious.

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Another thing.....

Why can't the National Fed step in and tell Louisiana that they have to follow the same 3 man mechanics that everyone else follows? This makes things hard. You work it they way they want you to and then when you go to a pick up camp you look pretty stupid out on the court not knowing what to do....

my e-mail address : brandan89 at bellsouth.net

The NFHS doesn't make state associations do anything. They have no authority to.

Confused
 

How is LA. any different from anyone else when it comes to the test? Please give an example.

Newsflash Brandan89, all associations have you do it different. Let's just talk about DI. If you want to wrk for a DI association, you must learn how to do it there way. They are all different. Adapt is the word you need to learn. If LA. wants you to do it a certain way, well, while in LA I'm doing it their way. If in Texas, I will do it the way Texas wants it done. This is the way the successful officials do it.

Last, some advice. Don't go against your assigner. That be like shooting self in foot with shotgun. Learn to adapt and do it the way they want you to do it.

Good Luck!

Who said I was against my assigner??? I was just asking a simple question.

No, you asked a loaded question. Provide us some examples if LA tests is different from anybody else's. We all have been there where we did not know the ruleset or mechanics. This is not the fault of LA or the association. I bet you that D1 basketball is the same in LA as it is in California. So when you get over yourself, tell us what the real problem is and we might be able to help you.

Whatever you decide, good luck in your officiating career!

Brandan, I hope you know enough to ignore this ridiculous and pointless piece of drivel. OS clearly has no idea how to read for comprehension, and doesn't have a clue as to what you're asking.

I'm e-mailing you privately about sending some past tests, with book references, so that you can study for yours.

The best thing to do is to look at a question, give it your best shot as to the answer, and then search the book to see if you can find the correct answer. Often, you'll find exact wording transfer from the book to the test. Then, if you really can't find what you're looking for in the book, look at the references paper, to find the correct rules reference. After all that, if you really can't get happy about the correct reference, you can ask here on the forum for further enlightenment and understanding. If you can get through 5-10 questions per day, by the time you take your test in the fall, you'll be an ace!

PS No one does 3-man mechanics anymore. The latest trend is 3-whistle or 3-person, and it's catching on like wildfire. Try it, you'll like it!

Just wodering Juulie, have you sent that e-mail??

[email protected] or
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THANKS..

Just out of curiosity, when does your association give its test this year? Ours is Oct 1. It is early this year it is normally Oct 31.

B,
Glad to see you posting again. Listen to Juulie and ignore Old School. How does LA do things differently... not that it's a great surprise...having gone to college in LA everything about the state is unique. What have you been up to anyway? Fill us in on how you are. RR

Believe me, if I let simple minded people get to me then I WOULD NOT be a referee. Haha

Anyways, I am doing just fine, I just moved out of my moms house and I am now living on my own. It has both its goods and its bads. Goods-Freedom, Bads-Bills.

Louisiana does not do the "flex" like other states do when using 3-whistle in a game.

You forgot this "bad" - laundry. :)

This is a given with you.

http://www.area9officials.org/

Click on past tests for review

Are you talking to me?

No, Brandon. Dblref was alluding to Old School, our village idiot.

Brandon: Scrappy is right. I was refering to OS. I obviously left off part of the quote showing who I was quoting when I posted. Too early on a Monday morning.

B,
Are your tests in LA open book or closed? Do you take them at home online or do you go somewhere and take it there with a time limit? Just curious? RR

For me, I have to travel about 1 hour and 20 minutes to take it and it is closed book. Our director of officials (the one who wont let us do the flex in 3 whistle) creates the test for us to take.

This year we are starting really early. Usually we test Oct 31, this year it will be Oct 1 for what my assign. sec told me.

Dude, that is different! Just out of curiosity, when you say won't let you do the flex, what exactly do you mean? I think I'm used to a different terminology. RR

When did OS get promoted to village idiot?

I think Louisiana might be similar to Mississippi. There are two major differences.
1. The C is always across from the table...always.
2. The calling official goes to the C.
Let that sink in for a while and think of all the situations you can get into where this is a bad thing.

Play dictates the need for the Lead to move across the paint. The C, in a lot of cases, doesn't know enough to back out and the Trail is too scared to move down. Why? Because when the ball changes possession the Lead must move back to table side to become new trail, the C is in the Cadillac position and can chill and the old Trail - who would normally now be the C - is now the new Lead.

At least with the NCAA change we will not have to adapt to going across from the table any more on foul calls.

This is what happens in reality. IF (If) we try to do these mechanics in the girls varsity game, we likely revert to the flex for the boys game because the speed of the game amplifies how bad this system is. It just isn't good for the game.

I realize this is different from the "flex" in NFHS and NCAA, but what's so bad about it really? As long as the Lead comes ballside when necessary and goes back when the ball transitions, is it that big a deal if the C slides 8 feet toward the division line? The one obvious advantage of that system is that there are no missed rotations -- because there are no rotations. You never end up with 2 Leads; or worse, no Leads.

I was led to believe that the NCAA is going back to having the calling official go opposite the table. I was told that the supervisors think there's way too much conversation after foul calls. I could be wrong, but I think it's coming.

Fixed it for ya.......:)

Nope. You missed it. The problem is not the b!tching. The problem is officials who feel compelled to carry on a conversation, instead of giving an explanation and then ending the discussion. The supervisors are not concerned about the coaches, according to what I've been told; they're displeased with the officials.

Granted, I've heard this 14th-hand. But I think my "source" is probably right.

Are you serious? Do you really mean that some conference officials are ignoring direct requests from their supervisors to STFU a little? And instead of the supervisors confronting <b>their</b> problem and getting <b>their</b> officials to tone down their rhetoric a l'il bit, they're gonna change mechanics(again) instead?

Whatever happened to all of the idealistic justification when they implemented the calling official staying table-side? You know...the goal of increased and better communication resulting in coaches and officials running hand-in-hand together through a flower-strewn meadow? That's all gonna be dead now?

Methinks it might be a management problem instead of a mechanics problem.

JMHO.

I'm just telling you what I've been told. Don't shoot the messenger.

Gee, I'd never do sumthin' like that.....

What are your thoughts though about what you've been told? Is it really a mechanics problem or is it supervisors being afraid to tell their big dawgs what to do? I'm assuming that their little dawgs( new members on staff, etc.) would listen to 'em with the appropriate respect and awe.

Of course though, how do you really explain to someone just exactly <b>when</b> their coach/official conversation is being dragged out too long?