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JugglingReferee Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:25am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
You can tell it is the off season. :D

Peace

You're lucky in that your basketball off-season is your baseball on-season!

Camron Rust Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:26am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
There's such a thing as a 1st/2nd grade travel team? I hope they're only traveling to other elementary schools in their school system. :(

Yes...they travel to the schoolyard and back. :D

j51969 Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:35am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
Maybe this is a Sports Illustrated sign that the apocolypse is upon us.

I like it!

JRutledge Thu Jun 14, 2007 01:04pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
You're lucky in that your basketball off-season is your baseball on-season!

My baseball season is completely over. The Baseball Season ended for me on May 19.

I have done nothing but work basketball games since June 2. I almost worked 20 games since that time as well.

Peace

Adam Thu Jun 14, 2007 01:29pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
No, just strippers. :D

Peace

and an open bar.

Mark Padgett Thu Jun 14, 2007 03:30pm

I have to tell you, I think the concept of a 1st and 2nd grade travel team is pathetic. Our local rec league starts at 3rd grade and just emphasizes learning fundamentals for the first two years with the objective of kids just having fun.

What happens when a 1st grader commits a turnover? Do his parents scream at him and tell him he just blew his college scholarship? I don't even want to think about what happens if a kid misses a "game winning" shot. :(

JRutledge Thu Jun 14, 2007 03:42pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
I have to tell you, I think the concept of a 1st and 2nd grade travel team is pathetic. Our local rec league starts at 3rd grade and just emphasizes learning fundamentals for the first two years with the objective of kids just having fun.

What happens when a 1st grader commits a turnover? Do his parents scream at him and tell him he just blew his college scholarship? I don't even want to think about what happens if a kid misses a "game winning" shot. :(

I agree with you there. This seems rather silly for kids playing at this age. The ball is likely bigger than they are. Why subject kids that early to that kind of competition. It is one thing if you have a local league where kids play amongst kids they know, but to have a travel league? These games have to be a joy to officiating......NOT!!!

Peace

Back In The Saddle Thu Jun 14, 2007 05:35pm

At that age a "travel league" should mean a league where there are no travels called. :(

Jurassic Referee Thu Jun 14, 2007 06:14pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
At that age a "travel league" should mean a league where there are no travels called. :(

And you should have babysitters instead of officials.....

Let the damn kids play....

Mark Padgett Thu Jun 14, 2007 06:50pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
At that age a "travel league" should mean a league where there are no travels called. :(

In our local kid's rec league, when I train refs to call 3rd and 4th grade games, one thing I teach them is not to call "traveling", but to call "too much traveling". One season, we had a guy coaching 3rd grade boys who came to his first game in a 3-piece Armani suit, Pat Riley hairdo and with a magnetic clipboard. He got on the refs right from the opening whistle. One of them, a HS freshman girl working her first game ever, looked over at me (I was observing from behind the scorers table) while he was yelling and I just nodded. She T'd him up. He proceeded to scream at her for doing that. She looked at me again and I nodded again. She tossed him. He wouldn't move. I came down and got right in front of him. I told him he had to leave without saying another word or he would be suspended from coaching in this league forever. He knew I was the Board president that year and could make that stick, so he just left. He was suspended for three games and had to submit a written apology to both officials. When he came back, he was a lamb.

I'm sure he would have liked to have been coaching a travel team.

BTW - that HS girl went on to work for us for four years and did a great job. Off topic - she also was all-state as a softball pitcher her Senior year. :)

JugglingReferee Fri Jun 15, 2007 02:46pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
In our local kid's rec league, when I train refs to call 3rd and 4th grade games, one thing I teach them is not to call "traveling", but to call "too much traveling". One season, we had a guy coaching 3rd grade boys who came to his first game in a 3-piece Armani suit, Pat Riley hairdo and with a magnetic clipboard. He got on the refs right from the opening whistle. One of them, a HS freshman girl working her first game ever, looked over at me (I was observing from behind the scorers table) while he was yelling and I just nodded. She T'd him up. He proceeded to scream at her for doing that. She looked at me again and I nodded again. She tossed him. He wouldn't move. I came down and got right in front of him. I told him he had to leave without saying another word or he would be suspended from coaching in this league forever. He knew I was the Board president that year and could make that stick, so he just left. He was suspended for three games and had to submit a written apology to both officials. When he came back, he was a lamb.

I'm sure he would have liked to have been coaching a travel team.

BTW - that HS girl went on to work for us for four years and did a great job. Off topic - she also was all-state as a softball pitcher her Senior year. :)

This is a GREAT story! Way to go to the girl!

JugglingReferee Mon Jun 18, 2007 04:10pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
And you should have babysitters instead of officials.....

Yabut, the babysitters are for the parents!

sj Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:35am

Just to counter and show all is not lost. Last summer Danny Manning brought a team of kids to an MAYB tournament here in Tulsa. He seemed like a great guy. He simply coached and was no trouble at all. I'm thinking he was worth more to his kids than this Allford guy.

26 Year Gap Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:49am

Must be tough to be known as Steve Alford's brother. Hey, Barb, I'd like you to meet Mr. & Mrs. Steve Alford's Brother. Doesn't excuse his behavior, but I bet he has quite a complex. Probably brags that he beat his brother in HORSE once.

Adam Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:45pm

Who is this Steve Alford guy? Y'all talk about him like he's famous or something.


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