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co2ice Fri Dec 28, 2001 11:37am

Just a quick question. Is it okay for the coach of team A to huddle is players up,(like a 30) on the court while team B replaces a disqualified player? To me it doesn't seem right but then again if B is stalling should A be allowed to take advantage? Thanks in advance!!!

Danvrapp Fri Dec 28, 2001 11:52am

I wouldn't have a problem with it unless team A doesn't get back on the floor when I let 'em know we're ready to play.

If they delay, I put the ball on the floor and start my 5-second count.

bob jenkins Fri Dec 28, 2001 11:53am

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Originally posted by co2ice
Just a quick question. Is it okay for the coach of team A to huddle is players up,(like a 30) on the court while team B replaces a disqualified player? To me it doesn't seem right but then again if B is stalling should A be allowed to take advantage? Thanks in advance!!!
OF course it's allowed. B can huddle, and they committed the foul. Why shouldn't A be allowed to huddle?

Why is this dead ball period any different from any other dead ball period? As long as the team is ready to play (doesn't delay the ball from becoming live), or accepts the consequences of not being ready, the coach can huddle anytime s./he wants.

Brian Watson Fri Dec 28, 2001 12:20pm

The team needs to stay on the floor and the coach off, but why not?

mick Fri Dec 28, 2001 12:34pm

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Originally posted by Brian Watson
The team needs to stay on the floor and the coach off, but why not?
Brian,
During a dead ball, why must the coach remain off the court?
mick

Danvrapp Fri Dec 28, 2001 12:39pm

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Originally posted by mick
Brian,
During a dead ball, why must the coach remain off the court?
mick

Mick, is this a riddle? Is the answer "Because the official would puke on his shoes?" :D

bigwhistle Fri Dec 28, 2001 01:02pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mick
Quote:

During a dead ball, why must the coach remain off the court?
mick
mick,

Are you going to allow the coach to come onto the court after every made basket? The ball becomes dead. :D

The coach needs to stay off the floor unless beckoned or if there is a time out.

Brian Watson Mon Dec 31, 2001 08:30am

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Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by Brian Watson
The team needs to stay on the floor and the coach off, but why not?
Brian,
During a dead ball, why must the coach remain off the court?
mick

The way I interpret the "coaches rule" based on rule one and the description of the coaching box, the "confines of the bench" means the area in front of the bench and out side the sideline.

mick Mon Dec 31, 2001 09:36am

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Originally posted by Brian Watson
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Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by Brian Watson
The team needs to stay on the floor and the coach off, but why not?
Brian,
During a dead ball, why must the coach remain off the court?
mick

The way I interpret the "coaches rule" based on rule one and the description of the coaching box, the "confines of the bench" means the area in front of the bench and out side the sideline.

Brian,
I don't disagree.
But, I am not troubled too much by a coach stepping onto the floor during a dead ball if they are coaching, or asking. I figger they are excited about the game and are not interfering with the non-play.
When the ball is about to be inbounded, they meander back to box-land before they get in the way of play.
mick

Jurassic Referee Mon Dec 31, 2001 09:59am

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Originally posted by mick

Brian,
I don't disagree.
But, I am not troubled too much by a coach stepping onto the floor during a dead ball if they are coaching, or asking. I figger they are excited about the game and are not interfering with the non-play.
When the ball is about to be inbounded, they meander back to box-land before they get in the way of play.
mick [/B]
Exactly,Mick! If they're not yapping at us and aren't in the way,who cares?

Brian Watson Mon Dec 31, 2001 10:19am

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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by Brian Watson
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by Brian Watson
The team needs to stay on the floor and the coach off, but why not?
Brian,
During a dead ball, why must the coach remain off the court?
mick

The way I interpret the "coaches rule" based on rule one and the description of the coaching box, the "confines of the bench" means the area in front of the bench and out side the sideline.

Brian,
I don't disagree.
But, I am not troubled too much by a coach stepping onto the floor during a dead ball if they are coaching, or asking. I figger they are excited about the game and are not interfering with the non-play.
When the ball is about to be inbounded, they meander back to box-land before they get in the way of play.
mick

Common sense does apply. If they are a step or so on the floor, I am not going to run over and shoo them. I have had coaches try to come out to the lane, half court etc. In these cases I tell them to stay OOB. I figure they less they are on the floor, the fewer problems.

Actually, I have found in this area it is like where to stand for a T, they will self enforce a rule that doesn't exist. The first thing they do is remind their kids to stay on the floor while they "toe" the sideline.

mick Mon Dec 31, 2001 10:32am

Cool !
 
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Originally posted by Brian Watson

Common sense does apply. If they are a step or so on the floor, I am not going to run over and shoo them. I have had coaches try to come out to the lane, half court etc. In these cases I tell them to stay OOB. I figure they less they are on the floor, the fewer problems.

Actually, I have found in this area it is like where to stand for a T, they will self enforce a rule that doesn't exist. The first thing they do is remind their kids to stay on the floor while they "toe" the sideline.

That's pretty convenient when they enforce an action that makes our job easier. :)
mick

Dan_ref Mon Dec 31, 2001 12:18pm

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Originally posted by mick


Brian,
I don't disagree.
But, I am not troubled too much by a coach stepping onto the floor during a dead ball if they are coaching, or asking. I figger they are excited about the game and are not interfering with the non-play.
When the ball is about to be inbounded, they meander back to box-land before they get in the way of play.
mick

Up until fairly recently I felt the same way but my recent
run in with Coach "Don't Touch Me" (I think he has a
cousin out west somewhere, eh Drake?) has changed my
thinking on this. I still don't mind him taking a few
steps on to coach, but if he's asking my first response
now is "Coach, I can't talk to you while you're on the
floor".

mick Mon Dec 31, 2001 12:52pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

Up until fairly recently I felt the same way but my recent
run in with Coach "Don't Touch Me" (I think he has a
cousin out west somewhere, eh Drake?) has changed my
thinking on this. I still don't mind him taking a few
steps on to coach, but if he's asking my first response
now is "Coach, I can't talk to you while you're on the
floor".

Sparky,
I had a coach just screamin' at me the other night on a no-call. It was during a dead ball. He was outa the box about mid-court.
I walked over to his coaching box and stood on the floor with my hands behind my back, and my head humbly bowed, while he carved me a new orifice. He wasn't swearing, just talking loudly. (<i>When I walked to the spot in front of his box, he, of course, followed cuz he wasn't quite done with me.</i>)
I listened.
I left.
At halftime during warm-ups, he still wanted to talk about it. We had some time so I explained; my partner said he, too, had nothing. He became calm.
End of the game,he again said he was sorry for getting over-excited.
The point, I think, is to allow the coach to love the game as much as we do. If we bring confidence to the floor, then I think most of the emotion is unimportant.
mick

BktBallRef Mon Dec 31, 2001 01:17pm

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Originally posted by mick
I had a coach just screamin' at me the other night on a no-call. It was during a dead ball. He was outa the box about mid-court.
You folks U.P there are a whole lot more lenient than we are down here.


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