Translation: Without the chicken there would be no egg! Or is it No egg begets no chicken? I'm so confused....:confused:

If we used OS way of thinking all AP's would be handled by a Check ball at the top of the key!:rolleyes:

For anybody else reading this except Goofus, this is what Goofus is recommending:
Defense violates during an AP throw-in. Defense now gets AP arrow because they violated.

Goofus can't figure out what's wrong wth this picture.:rolleyes:

Defense now gets the arrow, but the offense still has the ball. It's not unfair.

Yes, I'm re-evaluating my opinion on this; but the stopped-clock theory leaves me some hope.

The offense loses the arrow because of a defensive violation, and you think that's fair?

OK..........:rolleyes:

Where can I get my hands on such software :confused: :D

When I find it you will be the first to know. ;)

Peace

If I don't see a post, then I can more easily pass it by. There's zero chance if reading it.

Coaches? Yes. They're called earplugs.

Offense already had the ball. You aren't giving them anything.

So based on that - If under NFHS rules Player A1 has the ball and B1 reaches out in shoves him and the official calls the foul INTENTIONAL - Penalty two shot and team A gets the Ball ...
Team A has the ball and the coach on team A didn't like your lack of a call on a rebound and stands up and Calls you a good for nothing MF Arse who's heratige is in serious question as to being human and you "T" him up ... .
It seems to come down to a situation where you do not like the rule.

I do not like the Jumpstop rule
but I deal with it ...
I actually have become very good at calling it and getting it right - That would be how most healthy people deal with these type of things other wise it eats you up inside and you become old and jaded

It seems we have lost our way on this topic. The fact is this is the new rule and we must enforce it rather we like it or not. I do not believe that this rule leaves any room for interpretation such as contact being a foul or not.(advantage/disadvantage).

Hopefully, the Federation will be getting a case play out to us to show us exactly the way they want this situation to be handled.

No, but for some games, noise-cancelling headphones would be nice. I'll have to call up Bose and see if they can manufacture them pre-tuned to howler monkey frequencies.

To allow the arrow to be switched might seem fair except that the defense can play a little differently...they chance getting something out of trying a marginally legal play. They have nothing to lose between a play that might end up in a violation if A gets the throwin but B gets the arrow. By letting the throwin team keep the arrow, the defense will lose something if they violate....the next arrow. Sure, it is not "this" possession, but one more future arrow is worth something.

How? Nobody coaches for this. How are you going to play defense differently? You trying to win the game, you not committing a violation to get the arrow. You need the ball, the arrow not gonna get you jack, but maybe fired at the end of the season.

I'm not saying give team B the arrow on the violation. That's motor mouth JR with that ridiculous crap, trying to hyjack my position. After the ball is inbounded following the violation is when the arrow should switch. By not switching it, leaving it with Team A, the next held ball stays with A. That's the problem.

If i commit a violation on a AP throw-in, nobody gains anything. Nobody lost anything. I know I've said this before. If you tack on, lost of AP switch to my violation on the throw-in, which I know I've said this before, carries it's own penality, I just got penalized twice and for what?

Maybe the problem with me here is coaching. I don't think coaches coach for the AP. I could be wrong. Don't know what the hell that's going to get you, but if you want to coach for it, then maybe we need a new rule for something you are trying to do that I'm not aware of.

Maybe we get some coaches to chime in and share if this is something you actually coach for in the game. Maybe just share with me, where the team benefits when you do this because I can't see it.

Naw, JMO, the problem with you is that you don't know or understand basic rules.