This must make you feel better, but I have to break it to you. No one here "hates" you. We just disagree with virtually everything you say. Comical. "I didn't want to put air in my whistle. I'd have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you darned kids."I'd be willing to be money that an official has been reprimanded, suspended, and/or non-retained for making what he/she thought was the "safe call."
The "safe call" is another word for the "chicken-sh!t call."

So, are you talking about safety for the players ro safe for the career of the official? Your references to "safe" are a little muddled.


There are more possibilities than either "the safe call" or "not making a call". There is also "making the right call", which in the OP is a charge.

This play has nothing to do with common sense. We are not talking about calling an intentional foul on this play. And I did not say anything about not calling a foul either. Do you actually read what people say to you?

Why would you not be in good position? I guess that is a common excuse you seemed to give.

No one has been reprimanded for making the safe call? It is obvious you know little about officiating (not that we did not already know this) but for the newer people this comment proves it.

Peace

See Jeff, you can't help youself, can you?

:D

The difference is I know who I am dealing with. I do not expect it to change. I will take on his point of view when it is appropriate. I am not trying to demean him like many others.

Peace

Maybe because he doesn't <b>know</b> what position that he should be in?

When you don't own the mechanics books and have never received any training, you do what Old School does. You go where you want to and then guess.

That's funny! :D

Which is exactly my point. Most officials as can be determined by reading this thread alone, initially comes out with a block. Most everyone had to view it a 2nd time to come away with PC. The officials on the floor didn't have that luxary. Only a few of us said PC right off the bat. Now, realistically speaking, combine that with the fact you are in transition, how can you honesty say for sure what this call is? If you are unsure, which is my point that nobody wants to acknowledge or attempt to answer, but if you are unsure. What is your call?

Now, to my 2nd point. We all know what the right call is. The problem is, the majority of the time this happens in a game it's going to be ruled a block. Not every time but the majority of the time. Like it or not, as JR said, that be the way it is. Now, if you disagree with that, my opinion is like what JRut stated, lunacy. If you agree with that assessment that by-in-large most of the time this will be called a block. Then we can draw some meaningful conclusions from it. Like, it might not be in the best interest for the defender to do, being that most of the time it’s going to be ruled a block. You don’t coach your players to do things that most likely will go against you, imo. It’s just like the dribbler trying to dribble between 3 people, more than likely he’s going to get the ball stolen and not the foul call for the contact when he tried to go between them.

A wise man once said; play smart, referee smart, referee smart, referee career longer and more enjoyable.

The sad part is that he actually admits to it and doesn't see anything the matter with it either.

Which is exactly my point. You're the only goofus that viewed it a second time in slo-mo and <b>still</b> said it was a block. That's because you don't have know or understand basic rules and how to apply those basic rules. You could see that video a hundred times and you wouldn't know what to look for unless somebody laid it out beforehand, like Bob Jenkins did in the third post of this thread. And even with Bob laying it out then, you still got it wrong---over and over and over.

WOBW, JMO.

Whatever......!

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WOBW = Waste Of BandWidth

OS:

While I will admit that this was a bang-bang play, if one referees the defense, he will get the play correct almost everytime. This play met all of the rule critera for a charge.

Your reasons for call this a block is shear nonsense. Your reasons are not logical nor do they follow the rules. As I have stated many times in the past, officiating using your illogical and incorrect interpretations of the rules, does a disservice to the game of basketball. Please take an officiating class and learn how to officiate basketball. And maybe you should stop hiding behind your nom de plume. Fill out your profile and use your real name.

MTD, Sr.

That was not your point 4 pages ago. 4 pages ago, you were talking about keeping the players safe by calling block regardless of the actual play. On this play, if I'm unsure, I'm calling a charge. My philosophy is that if the defender is that close as to make it a question, he/she deserves the credit. That is the right call. If I'm watching the defender (which by the way, is the way to do it) and it's so close I can't tell, then it's a charge every time.

Just because the majority of the time this will be called a block DOES NOT MAKE IT THE RIGHT CALL. Sheez, OS, whose side are you on anyway? The Coach? But then, I'm not sure what coach would want you. Most coaches that I know that acutally do coach real high school ball, DO coach their kids to set up for the charge. Of course they don't coach their kids to dribble between the defenders, since it's just plain stupid. Setting up to take the charge is just great play, and coaches DO WANTR THEIR KIDS TO DO IT.

That wise man has lousy English.