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DrakeM Mon Dec 17, 2001 11:36am

Timer in Saturday's 9th grade game would alternate between
not starting the clock, and not stopping the clock.
Sometimes, if only a couple of seconds ran off, I would ignore it.
Fourth quarter, after a free throw, clock doesn't start. I look over and see timer on the CELL PHONE!? "TWEET!"
"GET OFF THE CELL PHONE AND START THE CLOCK!!!" Says I.
Didn't use the phone for the rest of the game.:p


Mark Padgett Mon Dec 17, 2001 12:41pm

Quote:

Originally posted by co2ice
A couple of weeks ago had a scorer running the possession arrow who wanted to point the arrow at the bench so "he" could keep it straight who got the ball next jump. I told him to set it the direction of travel
Next time try this. Tell him you'll compromise. If he'll point toward direction the first half, you'll let him point toward bench the second half. ;)

Larks Mon Dec 17, 2001 12:50pm

Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
I've had more problems this year with the AP arrow than ever before. Had a giy a couple of nights ago that wanted to point the arrow towards the team's bench, not their basket.
I've been learning to use the quarter in the pocket trick because the grd schools I work either dont have an arrow or worse have someone who I dont have confidence in. When I work with certain guys, we both use a coin or whatever and confer with each other to make sure be are on the same page.

Larks....A Rookie plus a quarter buys you....A Rookie....

Mark Dexter Mon Dec 17, 2001 02:03pm

ALWAYS have an arrow at the table! If the home team doesn't provide one, take a piece of paper and draw an arrow on that.

Then there's the story about the official who carries a plush bird with a long beak to be the backup arrow. Whenever the AP arrow should switch, he tells the scorer to "flip the bird!" :D

Larks Mon Dec 17, 2001 02:13pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
ALWAYS have an arrow at the table! If the home team doesn't provide one, take a piece of paper and draw an arrow on that.

Then there's the story about the official who carries a plush bird with a long beak to be the backup arrow. Whenever the AP arrow should switch, he tells the scorer to "flip the bird!" :D

Thats a good point Mark. My partner from yesterday and I were talking about just that. I've used a radio antenna and a baseball hat this year already mixed in with 3 weeks of the quarter in the pocket routine! We were talking about making a backup arrow to throw in our bags. Lets see...a 12" piece of 2x4 painted black with a white arrow. Not too tough and not much extra to throw in the bag.

Heh Heh....Flip the Bird! I'm gonna get a stuffed Monkey and face it the direction of the AP....that way, if the scorer incorrectly flips it, I can yell at him for touching my monkey!

(Aw cmon....at least I didnt go for the cheap "spanking the monkey" joke!)

Larks - Please dont touch the Rook's Monkey...it makes him mad!

Mark Padgett Mon Dec 17, 2001 02:20pm

be careful what you wish for
 
Just a word of caution to those of you who do a lot of lower level games. In many cases, it's better if the scorer doesn't keep the AP arrow. Here's why: if they don't understand how to keep it properly, it's going to be wrong about 50% of the time. If you are keeping track by having something in your pocket (I use a roll of mints - they serve a dual purpose that way), you will have a lot of occasions where you will indicate the proper direction and a coach will yell that you are wrong and point to the (incorrect) arrow. I have had this happen many times.

If the scorer has no clue as to AP procedure, save yourself a lot of grief and just do it yourself.

BTW - before one of you posts it, no - I don't keep the mints in my pocket because I want that area to smell good. And, for those of you who were thinking "taste good" - don't even go there.

Mark Dexter Mon Dec 17, 2001 02:55pm

Re: be careful what you wish for
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett

BTW - before one of you posts it, no - I don't keep the mints in my pocket because I want that area to smell good. And, for those of you who were thinking "taste good" - don't even go there.

Has a coach ever asked "Is that a roll of mints in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?" :D

Mark Padgett Mon Dec 17, 2001 03:28pm

Re: Re: be careful what you wish for
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett

BTW - before one of you posts it, no - I don't keep the mints in my pocket because I want that area to smell good. And, for those of you who were thinking "taste good" - don't even go there.

Has a coach ever asked "Is that a roll of mints in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?" :D

Never - because all the coaches know I'm never happy to see them. Oh wait - it's the other way around.

BTW - for anyone to be confused on that point, it would have to be a banana in my pocket ;)

Larks Mon Dec 17, 2001 03:52pm

WE MUST STOP NOW!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett

BTW - before one of you posts it, no - I don't keep the mints in my pocket because I want that area to smell good. And, for those of you who were thinking "taste good" - don't even go there.

Has a coach ever asked "Is that a roll of mints in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?" :D

Never - because all the coaches know I'm never happy to see them. Oh wait - it's the other way around.

BTW - for anyone to be confused on that point, it would have to be a banana in my pocket ;)


Aw Cmon....I thought I had the corner on the adolescent jokes this post!

Scuze me Ref...but is that a bananna in your pocket...or is it just my AP?

Larks....Get off my monkey and grab a bananna! While you're at it...flip the bird! Translated: Blue Ball(s)!

P.S. Someone needs to stop this post before Puking on shoe and staring at pants talk begins!


rainmaker Tue Dec 18, 2001 02:51am

Re: WE MUST STOP NOW!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
Aw Cmon....I thought I had the corner on the adolescent jokes this post! .....

P.S. Someone needs to stop this post before Puking on shoe and staring at pants talk begins!

I will do my mamma routine here, and change the subject to the original....

I bought a bright orange traffic cone, a small one from G.I. Joes. It only cost $1. I keep it in my car and use it for an arrow when the school or facility doesn't have one to my satisfaction. It works great

Larks Tue Dec 18, 2001 11:31am

Re: Re: WE MUST STOP NOW!
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rainmaker
[B]
Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
I bought a bright orange traffic cone, a small one from G.I. Joes. It only cost $1. I keep it in my car and use it for an arrow when the school or facility doesn't have one to my satisfaction. It works great
Not me...I'm going with the Monkey!

http://www.stuffedark.com/monkeyflapjack.htm...$27.50

Larks...Nobody spanks the Rook's monkey!

Ok...Ok....I've gone too far....I admit it....geez....AND QUIT STARING AT MY PANTS!

Doug Tue Dec 18, 2001 10:42pm

this is interesting, i was reading this post the other day, thinking, it will never get this serious w/ me...hoping... and BOOM, today it did. i reported, Green, 24, did the mechanic (handcheck) and the scorer just gave me a blank stare. i did it agian, and asked him if he got all of it, and he just looked at me,and then finally said, yes, i had it b4 you reported it, i knew who the foul was on, it made me kind of irritated... i asked him if he could at least smile and nod at me, and he did, so i got a blank stare w/ a smile, and a nod every time i reported a foul. It was interesting... i didn't even know what to do other than smile back, it was odd. why do some scorers feel that they must do everything, including the poss. arrow, b4 we call it, crazy

Doug (or so we think)

Dan_ref Tue Dec 18, 2001 10:58pm

Re: Re: Re: be careful what you wish for
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett


BTW - for anyone to be confused on that point, it would have to be a banana in my pocket ;)

Yeah, I read about those really tiny bananas they grow
up there in the Northwest! :D

bob jenkins Tue Dec 18, 2001 11:14pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Doug
this is interesting, i was reading this post the other day, thinking, it will never get this serious w/ me...hoping... and BOOM, today it did. i reported, Green, 24, did the mechanic (handcheck) and the scorer just gave me a blank stare. i did it agian, and asked him if he got all of it, and he just looked at me,and then finally said, yes, i had it b4 you reported it, i knew who the foul was on, it made me kind of irritated... i asked him if he could at least smile and nod at me, and he did, so i got a blank stare w/ a smile, and a nod every time i reported a foul. It was interesting... i didn't even know what to do other than smile back, it was odd. why do some scorers feel that they must do everything, including the poss. arrow, b4 we call it, crazy

Doug (or so we think)

At lower level games (where this happens more than at the hgher level games), I used to make a point to tell the scorekeeper to wait for us to report because we sometimes changed our minds between the time we called the foul and the time we reported it. ;)

Doug Wed Dec 19, 2001 07:55am

ha... that is good, i like it.


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