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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 11:23am
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Who is the person moderating this thread? Why would 'Dan ref' be allowed to make an obscene post, as he did with post #25?
You are new here.

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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 11:25am
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I didn't see anything obscene. I'm actually impressed with his restraint on this thread, but that's what happens when fans show up.
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 11:28am
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Yes, I just registered. The site was brought to my attention by a friend just a few minutes ago who was banned from the site for expressing his opinion on the final game last night. He said he had registered as BC22. Is dissent not allowed on this site?
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 11:30am
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Yes, I just registered. The site was brought to my attention by a friend just a few minutes ago who was banned from the site for expressing his opinion on the final game last night. He said he had registered as BC22. Is dissent not allowed on this site?
Sure your friend.................
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 11:32am
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Yes, I just registered. The site was brought to my attention by a friend just a few minutes ago who was banned from the site for expressing his opinion on the final game last night. He said he had registered as BC22. Is dissent not allowed on this site?
Yes, dissent is all over this place, but as you might have noticed it is an "Official's Forum" not a place for fans to come complain. Your friend was here complaining about things he doesn't understand because he is not an official and evidently the moderators decided we didn't need him around. This time of year we always get some fans that want to whine about calls and that isn't welcome here. Now if you are a fan or official and you want to ask an intelligient question about the rules of basketball and how they are applied, we welcome you...until you start acting like an ignorant fan.
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 11:40am
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Yes, dissent is all over this place, but as you might have noticed it is an "Official's Forum" not a place for fans to come complain. Your friend was here complaining about things he doesn't understand because he is not an official and evidently the moderators decided we didn't need him around. This time of year we always get some fans that want to whine about calls and that isn't welcome here. Now if you are a fan or official and you want to ask an intelligient question about the rules of basketball and how they are applied, we welcome you...until you start acting like an ignorant fan.
You say this is an "Official's Forum." Is it associated or linked to any official organization of officials or is it a site where a guy or a group of guys who officiate, either part time or full time, wanted to chat with their buddies, and decided to start a forum?
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 11:44am
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You say this is an "Official's Forum." Is it associated or linked to any official organization of officials or is it a site where a guy or a group of guys who officiate, either part time or full time, wanted to chat with their buddies, and decided to start a forum?
The Official Organization of OAOS. (Officials Against Old School)
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 11:44am
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You say this is an "Official's Forum." Is it associated or linked to any official organization of officials or is it a site where a guy or a group of guys who officiate, either part time or full time, wanted to chat with their buddies, and decided to start a forum?
That is exactly what this is. Fans that want to whine are not treated very well around here. We hear enough of that from the stands in the regular season. Like I said, we welcome intelligent questions, but if you want to whine about how the game was called, find a place where the rest of the Florida fans are talking and go there.
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 11:56am
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That is exactly what this is. Fans that want to whine are not treated very well around here. We hear enough of that from the stands in the regular season. Like I said, we welcome intelligent questions, but if you want to whine about how the game was called, find a place where the rest of the Florida fans are talking and go there.
Can you recommend any good non-officiating sites that welcome open and honest discussion? What would be the top 3?
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 12:04pm
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I doubt many of us even look at sites like that.

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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 12:44pm
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Can you recommend any good non-officiating sites that welcome open and honest discussion? What would be the top 3?
I'm sure Oprah, Dr. Phil, and "The People's Court" would be in my top 3.
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 11:50am
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You say this is an "Official's Forum." Is it associated or linked to any official organization of officials or is it a site where a guy or a group of guys who officiate, either part time or full time, wanted to chat with their buddies, and decided to start a forum?
It is a site started by officials for officials. I have no idea why it was created, but it was created for officials. There is a paid site associated with this board and the rules are set by the owners. This site is to mainly talk rules and officiating situations and philosophies. We are not here to rip on officials without a discussion of a rule or philosophies. If you are fan and you have a legitimate question or want clarification I know myself and others are glad to answer your questions. If you are hear to rip on the officials based on things you will never understand and do not want to understand, it is time to leave right now.

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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 12:05pm
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If you are fan and you have a legitimate question or want clarification I know myself and others are glad to answer your questions.

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Fair enough. Here is one I have wondered about for years. Coach K at Duke for years has chosen to use the charge as a means to draw fouls and prevent opponents from driving too aggressively to the basket. However, it seems the line has been crossed in that too often it has become dangerous for an offensive player to go airborne. The rule, as originally introduced, makes sense. An offensive player should never be allowed to drive over a defender. Shouldn't the benefit of the doubt be given to the offensive player since he is the one most vulnerable? I would love to see more blocking calls made rather than charging calls.
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 12:21pm
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Fair enough. Here is one I have wondered about for years. Coach K at Duke for years has chosen to use the charge as a means to draw fouls and prevent opponents from driving too aggressively to the basket. However, it seems the line has been crossed in that too often it has become dangerous for an offensive player to go airborne. The rule, as originally introduced, makes sense. An offensive player should never be allowed to drive over a defender. Shouldn't the benefit of the doubt be given to the offensive player since he is the one most vulnerable? I would love to see more blocking calls made rather than charging calls.
This is taught at all levels, not just Duke and not just college. The point is to have the offense not run over someone. How about teaching the offense how to shoot a jump shot?

Currently the rule says if the defensive player gets into position before the offensive player leaves the floor, the offense is responsible for the contact. How would you like to see the rule changed?
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 12:27pm
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Fair enough. Here is one I have wondered about for years. Coach K at Duke for years has chosen to use the charge as a means to draw fouls and prevent opponents from driving too aggressively to the basket. However, it seems the line has been crossed in that too often it has become dangerous for an offensive player to go airborne. The rule, as originally introduced, makes sense. An offensive player should never be allowed to drive over a defender. Shouldn't the benefit of the doubt be given to the offensive player since he is the one most vulnerable? I would love to see more blocking calls made rather than charging calls.
Basketball is a contact sport (sometimes a collision sport). If you do not want to run into a player that is standing in your way of the basket, learn to dribble round someone or shoot over them. The rules are not going to change anytime soon if you ask me on this issue. BTW, most players do not want to take a charge. So this is not a major issue.

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