Glad to see there's another Boston sports fan on the boards~!

So, Joe decided he's had enough in the Bronx - he turned down the extension offered by the Yankees.

I wonder which broadcast team he'll join?

The Cubs could use another previously successful manager whose reputation they can damage.

Probably join a team who knows how to spell. That's my guess anyway.

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Ok, I'm the first to admit that Manny should be running hard out of the box. But that ball was a HR. Buck and McCarver said they couldn't tell, even on replay, but that's BS. It was gone. :(

Good for you, Joe Torre! http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/2thumbs.gif

Screw'em.

Chuck, wtf is Beckett yelling at Lofton about? That was weird. :confused:

It probably had something to do with dropping the bat on the strike call right before. It's one thing to think it was ball four, it's another when the pitch was pretty easily a strike.

Turned into a typical baseball melee:

"Yo' Mama!"

No, yo' Mama!"

Oh, yea?!? Yo' Mama!!"

...grumble...grumble...(back to dugout).

It looked to me like it hit right on the front corner/edge of he wall; that's why it bounced back on the field. But is the yellow line in or out? I would think the ball has to go over the line to be a HR?

YU.P.
"A fly ball hits the top of the left-center field fence and bounds into the grandstand: homerun." - Rules of Professional Baseball

Actually, it was a 400' single. But who cares? There's always the next AB. It's not like it's the end of the world.

Manny being Manny. How many times have we heard that one?

Seems like Beckett gets "behind" on purpose. Gets to 3-0, or 3-1 pretty early quite often. Isn't that against orthodoxy?

Chuck,
You got your wish. It's going back to Boston. Beckett was awesome.

This will be fun. I think that Cleveland still has an edge, but Boston now has a realistic chance. The pitchers for Boston in games 6 and 7 don't inspire the confidence that Beckett does.

It will be a good weekend.

I hate to say "I told you so". Actually, I don't hate to say it at all. :) Enjoy the flight to Boston.

What else were you going to say? :) I would have enjoyed telling you the same thing if tonight worked out the way I envisioned.

Best pitcher won. Everything went right for the sox and nothing went right for the tribe. Funny how that stuff seems to turn on a dime.

Oh well, here we come Chuck. See you Saturday.

So let me get this straight....

The Indians flew in from Boston (or somewhere else) the opposing starting pitcher's ex-girlfriend, to sing the national anthem?

Wow... that's got some taunting undercurrents, eh?

Um, no, it was a 390 foot <b>single</b>. :D Too bad that Boston didn't lose by a run; you could still say "Oh, that's just Manny being Manny".

You know what's funny? Your pitcher throwing a hissy-fit because Lofton was styling, while Manny is doing the same or worse in the same game.

Btw, that was great base running by Manny when he got tagged out at the plate, wasn't it? :D Probably didn't want to get his pants dirty.....

I didn't think Lofton was stylin'.
To me he truely believed that pitch was ball four and the strike call was a touch slow. Almost before the bat slowly hit the ground, he was picking it up.:)

Kind of a late strike call by Blue as well. I can totally see why the BR thought that it was a ball: both by his view of the pitch and the PU's mechanics.

Let's start a list of team mates & opponents who would have knocked down Manny with either a fist or a baseball if he had been playing prior to 1980

I'll start.... team mates Billy Martin, Pete Rose, opponents Don Drysdale, Bob Gibson

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There's a story this morning in USA Today quoting Lofton as saying that he and Becket have been going at each other since way back in 2005 over Lofton's habit of flipping the bat when he's walked.

Lofton has more than a bit of "Manny"(tm) in him......

Goose Gossage comes to mind immediately.....

A much shorter list would be who <b>wouldn't</b> knock him down......

Baseball has less and less tolerance for the "old ways" of handling disputes. The umpires tolerate deliberate HBP less and less, and they're following instructions. The owners have too much money tied up in the marquee players -- who get hit by accident enough as it is -- and it always seems to be they who engage in "stylin'" and deserve to be thrown at.

Since the players can no longer take care of this misbehavior themselves, and since it's not against the rules, expect to see more and more of it. Won't be long before we see some classless schlunk "hit the ATM" after knocking one out (or some similar NFL shenanigans).

I thought Betancourt might plunk Ramirez in game 4 after that dumb way he savored his home run (team still down 4). But Betancourt was too classy: he just got Manny to fly out to end the inning. :p

Either that or he realized that if he plunked Manny, the batter would end up on 1B and Betancourt would be ejected, neither of which would help the team. :(

geeze, ya think..?

:rolleyes:

I admit I'm new to the whole baseball fan thing. So could you gently tell me what HBP is? I don't care if you feel any empathy, just don't be insulting or sarcastic. Thanks

ditto for "hit the ATM".

Juulie - it means "hit by pitch". Not to be confused with the rhyming move that signifies a slap from a girlfriend - "HBB". :p

Horace Bernard Pearson was the first player plunked and since then his initials are used to designate a player hit by pitch.

Obvious and clearly over the top staged taunting by a player.

Wow, Dan, that's so helpful.

Oh, yea, obvious. Thanks.

Mick,
He said 1980, not 1880. :D

Did he say before or after ? http://smilies.vidahost.com/ups/sicdeth/headscratch.gif

True, mick, but he probably didn't mean to go all the way back to JR's time. :)

Oh.

Maybe I missed it...when did they decide 1880 comes after 1980?

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Juulie, he meant that the taunting was obvious, not that the meaning of the phrase is obvious.

NFL players have done this move to celebrate scoring a TD.

LOL!! Thanks for "interpreting". I guess Dan and I just speak different languages... and Dan and Mark... and Dan and Rut... Hhhmmmmm.....

Go tribe!

Well, it may or may not hold up, but so far tonight, the Sox look pretty good, and Carmona, well, not so much.

I have to get up at an ungodly hour tomorrow for my college meeting, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to stay awake till the end of this one; but I am sure that I won't be posting afterward. So I'll just say now, that I'm happy with the way the first couple innings have gone. If Schill can hold them off for another 4 innings, that'll be a big plus.

Go Sox!

We'll see you for game 7 tomorrow night.

Don't jinx it, Nevada.

Hell - Sox are up 11-2 now, and I'm still worried that Cleveland could come back and win it.

JD Drew may have earned his way into Boston's hearts tonight. I'm still shocked to see it (and a bit upset it took this long to happen).

So we had the Manny & Ortiz show the past few days, tonight was the everyone-else show. Hopefully tomorrow, we can get everyone working.

12-2 now. Still not willing to put the game in the bag. :p Even with Drew going 3-5 with 5 RBI.

Final thought - the Sox better bring back Lowell next year.

You guys STILL talking baseball? Based on some numbers I read this morning about total viewers for the playoffs, you guys probably represent 60% of the ratings!

As a follow-up, Gagne is now coming into the game.

Cleveland could get 15 runs in the next five minutes.

Okay, Dexter, off to bed. Tomorrow could be even more tense.

Another one outed......
 

Great timing for this story to pop.......

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl....DTL&type=news

Wonder what his excuse is gonna be?

Gee, I see that 2 prescriptions were written by his dentist. I didn't know HGH was needed for strong, healthy teeth.

Many more to come also from ll over MLB if the rumors are true......

Congrats. Boston has definitely made my "team I dislike the most" list. Especially that little $hit Pedroia. :)

They better not lose to Colorado. Good luck.

My Red Sox did it...
 

...by winning the ALCS. Now to finish the job vs. the Rockies and win no.7.

Chuck,
I'd like to say congratulations. Again, I would like to say that, but I'm a little bitter and sick about the $ the Sox cost me tonight. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...ages/sick3.gif

Well, Dice-K didn't pitch great, but they were good enough. He never seemed to really dominate, but got them through 5. Westbrook, on the other hand, seemed to actually get better from the 4th-6th innings. He was making the Sox look bad. But Okajima was great in the 6th and 7th. Couldn't get anybody out in the 8th, but he really is a 2-inning guy, max. And Pap was lights-out for two innings when they really needed it. On the other hand, when Westbrook started to struggle (Wedge probably left him in too long), the Indians bullpen just poured gas on the fire.

Pedroia really did have a great night, when Ortiz had a bad one.

Was anybody else laughing out loud at McCarver for carping incessantly about how both teams should've had pitchers warming in the bullpen in the first inning and a half? He kept talking about 'how long are you going to leave them in when they start to struggle', and both starters went at least 5 innings. He can be such a putz sometimes.

7 down. 4 to go. :)

I can't laugh at that idiot. I just yell at him to STFU!

I have actaully watched some sports with the volume on mute, to avoid these goofs.

Learned that trick from a friend of mine. :p

Stat of the series - in each of Boston's 3 losses, the starting pitcher went 4.2 innings.

In each of Boston's 4 wins, the starting pitcher went 5.0 or more.

Well, the series starts tomorrow. Should be very interesting...

I'll take the Rockies in 6. Sorry, Chuck. ;)

I'm going to root for the Rockies because they are a fantastic story and like seeing that kind of stuff happen, and one other reason--now what was that?... Oh yeah, $. :D

From detnews.com

 "Many of the current Red Sox players went to the World Series in 2004, with the team that brought a title home for the first time since 1918.
 The Rockies never have been this far -- not even close.
 Will the difference in experience matter?
 'I don't think there's any advantage at all," said Josh Beckett , tonight's Red Sox starter. "Everybody has experience at playing baseball, and that's what we're going to do.'"

Geeze, I don't know if I agree with that, Mick. I just checked. From the 25-man roster in 2004 to this year's 25-man roster, the BoSox only have 7 players the same. They are Doug Mirabelli, David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez, Curt Shilling, Mike Timlin, Jason Varitek and Kevin Youkillis. Of course, Tim Wakefield would have been #8 except for his balky back. Eighteen players is a pretty hefty turnover, especially in the pitching staff.

I guess you have to give the BoSox props for churning their roster and staying in contention. Of course, being able to spend around $135,000 for salaries helps a little bit too. :)

Does the smile indicate that you left out a comma (and 3 zeros, plus 8 mil)?

gooooooooo Rockies
 

nothing more nothing less...

John Williams' National Anthem was marvelous ! :)

First team in MLB history to score 10 or more runs in 3 straight postseason games. I don't think the 8 day layoff was good for the Rockies.

Yeah... and they better get a stolen base too... or at least one of them better!! :D

For the love of a college kid...someone steal a base!!!! :)

No taco for you! Come back, one year!

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13-1. I think it's safe to go to bed. Night, all!

Unfortunately it was all down hill from there.

Time and time again I see that long layovers are bad for the first team to declare themselves participants in a sports' final series.

"Sweet Baby" James missed a letter in the National Anthem. :cool:

Note to the culturally deprived: it's soup, not taco.

:rolleyes:

Who cares?

They should have started that game 2 hours ago.

I think the crowd in Boston will forgive him. :)

What did he miss? I was in the kitchen finishing up dinner and didn't catch it.

Whoo hoo!

Tacos for everyone!

Heck yeah!!!! This coming Tuesday!!!!!

Taco Tuesday. :eek:

Chuck, are you enjoying this game as much as last night's?

I know I am - much more entertaining.

I think Chuck's too busy chewing his nails right now to type an answer...

Jim,

Where in the hell is the Taco Bell in Champaign?!?!?! :D

Listen for the chihuahua...then turn right.

There's a couple, actually. One's on west Springfield Ave., just past Mattis Ave. The other is on south Neil, about a block south of Kirby, in front of the Hooters.

There's at least one in Urbana as well.

You plan on hittin' them all???

Hmmmm hadn't thought about hitting them all. But, it's possible! They only one I know for sure is the one by Hooters.

I think I need a bigger box...
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/FOOD/ne...ry.taco.ap.jpg

Why doesn't that surprise me. :rolleyes:

:D

Chuck, setup a chat room.

"...Gave proof through the might...."

I hope I'm wrong, but I think its all over but the shouting.:(

Not sure if "enjoy" is the right word, but it was a terrific game. Once Okijima got out of the 6th (stranding 2 guys), I was pretty confident that the Sox would win. He's been incredible all year and I'm really happy for him that he is getting to shine in the postseason. Papelbon was terrific, too. Giving up a shot back through the middle (b/c he didn't get his fastball up enough where Tek wanted it), but then picking Holliday off (what a HUUUUUUUGE mistake :( ). Holliday had 4 hits on the night, but the whole rest of the Rockies team only had 1 hit.

I have to say that I'm feeling good, but the Rockies still make me a little nervous, going back to Denver. Dice-K and Lester. . .

9 down. . .

I believe Tanner is the new President of the Jacoby Ellsbury fan club. :)

Yea, wasn't that something? I really enjoyed seeing that play again and again.

Carrie Underwood's falsetto in the National Anthem made my spine tingle.
I think the Rockies should get rid of those black shirts and vests.

I didn't know that. Sorta like the plate ump gets to pick a color ?

Again, I can't say I'm enjoying it, but it's a pretty good game tonight.

Always wondered how that was determined with half a dozen MLB colors nowadays.

Any idea why (almost) no one wears the plate coat anymore?

A couple insurance runs late and the Sox win again. Ellsbury and Pedroia each get 3 hits. I think they said it's the first time two rookies had 3 hits in the same World Series game. Bodes well for tomorrow and next season, as well. 10 down, 1 to go.

I have one word to say about this World Series
 

Ick

Yeah, right!:rolleyes:

That's called false empathy.All of us who have true empathy can spot the difference right away.

Someone is buying and selling them, Mark. Not hard to find.
The folks on the baseball forum talk about 'em
You can get the Gerry Davis coat for ~$100.00/lb.

http://www.gerrydavis.com/Merchant2/...gory_Code=ECAC

I typed that when it was still a 1-run game after Holliday's HR. A one-run lead is not enjoyable in Denver! If you had any real empathy in those hardened arteries, you'd know that. :p (Does empathy flow through the arteries? :confused: )

Sounds painful. Isn't that procedure something like an enema? Oh wait, is the angioplasty forced, or the empathy?

Speaking of the Red Sox.... yawn....I can't imagine how abysmal the ratings for the Series overall will turn out to be.

Just be thankful that the person who did the procedure was a qualified, highly-recommended empathiologist. I've heard there's not a better one in the country!

I could. However, since I don't ump baseball, I'd look a bit weird walking down the street wearing one, especially if I had numbers sewn onto it.

I believe that you're referring to something completely different(and completely irrelevant also) than to what I was referring to.