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mick Fri Mar 23, 2007 01:44pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun
If you really know Bob, that is cool, but I hope you really know him when you say that and not just communicate with him through a discussion board. I've said that before and I still believe it.

Oh, yeah, tomegun !
He's got a striped shirt, a whistle, heather gray slacks and everything. :)

tomegun Fri Mar 23, 2007 01:48pm

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Originally Posted by mick
Oh, yeah, tomegun !
He's got a striped shirt, a whistle, heather gray slacks and everything. :)

Can you tell me what color heather gray is? :) I might be too young to know that color!

mick Fri Mar 23, 2007 02:03pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun
Can you tell me what color heather gray is? :) I might be too young to know that color!

Nah, you're not too young. Heather gray is a color of baseball umpire slacks. We worked some hoops and then finished the evening with a ball game. ;)

bob jenkins Fri Mar 23, 2007 03:06pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun
I would like to think you are only having some fun - like me, but I don't see where you are getting this from. I never said that anyone was a good, great or better official for calling me an a-hole. Also, I never said that anyone was a good, great or better official for being an a-hole on the court. What I said, and I quote myself, "Being an a-hole on the court is often necessary because what we do isn't always popular." You might like to call it an a-hole, jerk, prick or anything else, but can you say this statement isn't true?

With the caveat that one should never say never, I'll say that an official should never be an a-hole on the court. An official should be firm, decisive, strong, willing to make the unpopular, but right decision.... but should still be professional (which I guess Roger's would have as an antonym of a-hole).

JRutledge Fri Mar 23, 2007 03:12pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
With the caveat that one should never say never, I'll say that an official should never be an a-hole on the court. An official should be firm, decisive, strong, willing to make the unpopular, but right decision.... but should still be professional (which I guess Roger's would have as an antonym of a-hole).

If you are firm about just about anything on or off the court someone will consider you as acting like an A-hole. They just might not say it to your face.

Peace

tomegun Fri Mar 23, 2007 03:31pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
If you are firm about just about anything on or off the court someone will consider you as acting like an A-hole. They just might not say it to your face.

Peace

Well said and what I meant by a-hole in this instance.

Jurassic Referee Fri Mar 23, 2007 04:20pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
With the caveat that one should never say never, I'll say that an official should never be an a-hole on the court. An official should be firm, decisive, strong, willing to make the unpopular, but right decision.... but should still be professional (which I guess Roger's would have as an antonym of a-hole).

What Bob said above, Tom. I couldn't say it better and I agree with what he said completely.

You have to have the balls to make the unpopular but correct call, when necessary. You <b>are</b> going to piss people off when you make that call. What you don't want to do however is <b>needlessly</b> piss people off when you make the call. I'm sure that you know what I mean by that.

Of course, having said that, I still reserve my personal right to call you a f**ing azzhole every now and then.:D

Note the "smiley". That makes it OK.

tomegun Fri Mar 23, 2007 09:05pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
What Bob said above, Tom. I couldn't say it better and I agree with what he said completely.

You have to have the balls to make the unpopular but correct call, when necessary. You are going to piss people off when you make that call. What you don't want to do however is needlessly piss people off when you make the call. I'm sure that you know what I mean by that.

Of course, having said that, I still reserve my personal right to call you a f**ing azzhole every now and then.:D

Note the "smiley". That makes it OK.

I guess we have really went the long way on this one!

Read your second paragraph above, which I agree with. Then read Bob's post that I responded to and finally look at the play again. There will likely be silence after that since you know as well as I that after looking at that play it should have been a T.

Rich Fri Mar 23, 2007 09:15pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
With the caveat that one should never say never, I'll say that an official should never be an a-hole on the court. An official should be firm, decisive, strong, willing to make the unpopular, but right decision.... but should still be professional (which I guess Roger's would have as an antonym of a-hole).

How about "have stupid giveaways thrown at you followed by a police escort?"

RushmoreRef Fri Mar 23, 2007 09:40pm

Good thread.....I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt on why he grabbed the rim....he could have felt he needed to do if to prevent a possible injury...

As soon as he attempted to make a play on the ball, it's a T...he's no longer hanging on the rim to prevent injury, if he can attempt to block a shot than he can get himself back to the floor. No shooting foul...it's a T.


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