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Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Mar 21, 2007 09:02pm
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Originally Posted by Old School
So who are you, the referee cop. If you read what I said, which points clearly you do not interpret what you read. I preference what I said with I am not talking about LGP, establishing LGP, or a block charge. I'm talking about getting into position to accurately make the call. So in my discussion, time and distance is very important and valid to the topic under discussion. If you can not handle that. Then maybe you need to quite drinking that kool-aide that's going around. I've warn you it's not good for you. Causes your brain to only see, hear, read one thing. That's not good.

I am starting to favor the opinion that most of you officials out here are the most uptight people in the world. You have to be right all the time. What's up with that? Is that the drawback or side effects of a lifetime of officiating. It poisons your brain? You have been into that rulebook so hard that certain words can not be used to describe a basketball situation because the rulebook uses it differently? Get over yourself!

Okay, rant is over, go back to hating on me and talking about LGP and block charge. I know your one-track mind can't handle nothing else.


Old School:

If you want to people to stop abusing you like Frank Burns, either learn the rules of basketball how to apply them correctly or stop posting. I have giving you a history of the hows and whys of the rules but you still think you can interpret and apply the rules any old way you see fit.

MTD, Sr.

Old School Thu Mar 22, 2007 02:32pm
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Old School:

If you want to people to stop abusing you like Frank Burns,
What I want is to be financially secure. I have no control over how you and the rest of your posse think, feel, etc., so me not gonna worry about that! Say and feel whatever, it's a free country, and it's all on you.
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either learn the rules of basketball how to apply them correctly or stop posting.
Really need to lay off the kool-aide. Just like I can't stop you from throwing officials under the bus, you can't stop me from having an opinion.
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I have giving you a history of the hows and whys of the rules
and I appreciate that!
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but you still think you can interpret and apply the rules any old way you see fit.
Not any way, but maybe not exactly the way you would do it, then again, I'm not trying to be like you. You see, I was one of the guys that refused to drink the kool-aide and ran off. I lived to ref another day...

Get over yourself and stop drinking that kool-aide...!!!

Old School Thu Mar 22, 2007 02:37pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
518 ties for the dumbest post ever now. Again, congratulations.
I'm glad you're taking such an interest in dumb posts. You ever heard the saying, it takes one to know one!

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Mar 22, 2007 03:13pm
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Originally Posted by Old School
What I want is to be financially secure. I have no control over how you and the rest of your posse think, feel, etc., so me not gonna worry about that! Say and feel whatever, it's a free country, and it's all on you.
Really need to lay off the kool-aide. Just like I can't stop you from throwing officials under the bus, you can't stop me from having an opinion.
and I appreciate that!
Not any way, but maybe not exactly the way you would do it, then again, I'm not trying to be like you. You see, I was one of the guys that refused to drink the kool-aide and ran off. I lived to ref another day...

Get over yourself and stop drinking that kool-aide...!!!

Old School:

I do not interpret the rules the way I want to interpret them, you do that. There is a correct way to officiate and incorrect way to officiate. People who choose to interpret the rules their own way officiate incorrecty and make it all about them and not about the game. Sorry, but you jsut keep ringing up dumber and dumber posts. Some of us actually sit on national officiatng committees, are rules interpreters at the local or state level, and are personal friends with past and current members of the NFHS Rules Committee. Please stop posting until you learn the rules and how to officiate. You bring nothing to this Forum but foolish postings that show how little you know about officaiting the game.

MTD, Sr.

Old School Thu Mar 22, 2007 03:39pm
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Old School:

I do not interpret the rules the way I want to interpret them, you do that. There is a correct way to officiate and incorrect way to officiate. People who choose to interpret the rules their own way officiate incorrecty and make it all about them and not about the game. Sorry, but you jsut keep ringing up dumber and dumber posts. Some of us actually sit on national officiatng committees, are rules interpreters at the local or state level, and are personal friends with past and current members of the NFHS Rules Committee. Please stop posting until you learn the rules and how to officiate. You bring nothing to this Forum but foolish postings that show how little you know about officaiting the game.

MTD, Sr.
Mark, if you are so accomplish in this field, and you're on all the national boards and such. BTW, I'm happy for you. But seriously, why are you so worried me. If you are as smart as you say you are. You would just take me for what it's worth. Now, I'm going to be serious for a minute. Okay, I lied but the kool-aide is spiked, you got to stop drinking it before it's too late. That's what making you think like that. It's making you think that I'm a valid fish but I'm not. I'm just OS having some fun.

Oh, and btw, I do believe in, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. IOW, if you can't take it in return, best to not dish it out.

M&M Guy Thu Mar 22, 2007 03:46pm
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Originally Posted by Old School
Okay, I lied...
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Originally Posted by Old School
It's making you think that I'm a valid fish but I'm not. I'm just OS having some fun.
Thank you for finally admitting what most of us have known/suspected for a while.

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Originally Posted by Old School
Oh, and btw, I do believe in, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. IOW, if you can't take it in return, best to not dish it out.
Somehow, I think you believe this only goes one way.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Mar 22, 2007 03:58pm
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Originally Posted by Old School
Mark, if you are so accomplish in this field, and you're on all the national boards and such. BTW, I'm happy for you. But seriously, why are you so worried me. If you are as smart as you say you are. You would just take me for what it's worth. Now, I'm going to be serious for a minute. Okay, I lied but the kool-aide is spiked, you got to stop drinking it before it's too late. That's what making you think like that. It's making you think that I'm a valid fish but I'm not. I'm just OS having some fun.

Oh, and btw, I do believe in, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. IOW, if you can't take it in return, best to not dish it out.

Old School:

What are you babbling about? And we would all like to know what is this Kool-aide you are jabbering on about? Furthermore, we would all like to now what your credentials are. And why am I concerned about you? Because like the vast majority of the people on this Forum we take pride in our avocation and do not like an incompetent official making us look bad.

MTD, Sr.

jontheref Thu Mar 22, 2007 05:14pm
It looks like I may be the only one who believes that the offensive player has started to leave his feet when the guy sets himself. I got a block, but I am selling it like an SOB to anyone who wants to know. Its a toughy though

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Mar 22, 2007 05:35pm
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Originally Posted by jontheref
It looks like I may be the only one who believes that the offensive player has started to leave his feet when the guy sets himself. I got a block, but I am selling it like an SOB to anyone who wants to know. Its a toughy though

Jon:

I do not have a problem per se if one official sees a block and one sees a charge on a bang-bang play like the one in posted in this thread. The discussion in this thread is how to apply the guarding and screening rules. Old School thinks that he does not have to apply the rules correctly; he wants to apply the rules the way he wants to apply the rules any way he sees fits.

With regard to how you viewed the play. This is a difference between a player starting to leave his feet and a player has already left his feet. Either a player is airborne or not airborne. If the offensive player is not airborne when the defensive player obtained/established a LGP then the contact has to be a charge.

MTD, Sr.

Jurassic Referee Thu Mar 22, 2007 06:07pm
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Originally Posted by Old School
I'm glad you're taking such an interest in dumb posts. You ever heard the saying, it takes one to know one!
The latest results are 522 for 522. You're still perfect.

Jurassic Referee Thu Mar 22, 2007 06:10pm
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Originally Posted by Old School
It's making you think that I'm a valid fish but I'm not. I'm just OS having some fun.
He finally admits that he's a troll, to no one's surprise.

Adam Thu Mar 22, 2007 06:17pm
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Originally Posted by jontheref
It looks like I may be the only one who believes that the offensive player has started to leave his feet when the guy sets himself. I got a block, but I am selling it like an SOB to anyone who wants to know. Its a toughy though
Of course he's started to leave his feet. The question is, has he actually beocome airborne before the defender gets LGP.

Old School Thu Mar 22, 2007 07:37pm
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Old School:

Because like the vast majority of the people on this Forum we take pride in our avocation and do not like an incompetent official making us look bad.

MTD, Sr.
I can not make you look bad. If you feel you look bad, that is because of your own insecurities.

If I mess up a rule or an interpretation of a rule, that's on me and has nothing to do with you. However, you trying to make me feel bad about myself and my officiating makes you suspect to everyone else. The suspicion is why are you trying so hard. That makes you look bad and a fool. One more thing, you will never break my spirits and love for the sport. As I indicated before, the game is bigger than me and you, but I don't think you get that.

Must be in the kool-aide.....

Old School Thu Mar 22, 2007 07:46pm
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Jon:

I do not have a problem per se if one official sees a block and one sees a charge on a bang-bang play like the one in posted in this thread. The discussion in this thread is how to apply the guarding and screening rules. Old School thinks that he does not have to apply the rules correctly; he wants to apply the rules the way he wants to apply the rules any way he sees fits.
Come on now, that's just not true. If we get to the same place at the same time, what difference does it make how we got there. You see, some people like to take the bus, some people take the train, and some people like to drive. You figure the only way to get there is one way, and if this particular way is not followed, exactly, then rein down all the sins of heavon on this person. He is not fit to officiate, and on, and on, and on....

A wise man once said, be weary of anyone who speaks bad of others, for there is almost always a hiddden agenda.

Old School Thu Mar 22, 2007 07:47pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
The latest results are 522 for 522. You're still perfect.
And you sir, are still a perfect a$$hole.


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