Did Welmer work the 2nd round
 

Hey did Welmer work the second round? I dont remember catching him.

No he did not

WOW! I'm so suprised. NOT!

How does it feel to be the only member of the Steve Welmer haters society?

I don't utterly and unequivicaly hate Steve Welmer. It just doesn't suprise me to see him NOT working the 2nd round. Maybe Mr. Nichols is the President and CEO of the Steve Welmer Haters Society (SWHS) cause he hasn't moved him on even though he works all these big games and all these big conferences. Or maybe, just maybe, he doesn't get half his damn plays right and thats why Hank doesn't hire him for the Sweet 16 or further. I don't know I will leave it up to you to decide.

So you're saying getting less than half your damn plays right qualifies you for the first round.

Who knew there was such a shortage of D1 officials?

why are we swinging on the nuts of so many officials?

No, I'm saying Steve Welmer is Steve Welmer. He's going to get to work the tournament, he just won't go that far.

But you're saying someone who gets less than half his calls right can be selected to work the tournament.

How does that happen?

You also seem to be saying that it's an embarrassment somehow to get selected to work the tournament but only work 1 game.

You saying that?

Bitter, uncontrolled jealousy is my guess.

It's at the bottom of a lot of ugliness.

It's also on the surface.

If you don't remember it, chances are he did, and you were playing the game, and there was an awful lot of pants adjustments that night.

:D :D :D

It is human nature. When someone accomplishes more than you have, it is really easy to find fault in those above you. It is really hard to look in the mirror and find fault in yourself.

Just look in the Bible and you can see how many stories involve jealousy and envy. These posts are no different.

Peace

Trust me when I say I am not the least bit jealous of Mr. Welmer. I guess he is just so exposed on television games, that he is the guy that you can pick out.

Two quick comments.

1. Last I checked, the officiating assignments for the tournament were made by the men's basketball committee, not Hank Nichols acting on his own. I'm sure he has some input (along with the evaluators from each 1st/2nd round site), but he's not the be all and end all of who gets assigned where in the tourney.

2. An official can be assigned a regional semifinal/final game without having worked a second-round game in the tournament.

There's plenty in the Koran too.

I'd be willing to bet my house that Steve Welmer will be working this weekend.

Are you talking about in the NCAA Men's tourney? Or the NIT? Or other?

hes my partner in a local AAU 4th grade girls tourney this weekend -- so Trigger looks like your house is safe for one more weekend.

Wasn't he on a crew with that Diebler guy? :p

Seriously - even if he isn't moving on - he's worked 2-3 more tourney games than any of us did this year :rolleyes:

I was going to say the same thing -- I haven't seen him working the NIT and Steve certainly isn't done for the year this early.

I will take that bet.

And I'll take this bet too. Can you guys tell me what state you live in just so I have a rough idea of where my potential future vacation homes may be located?

You can't figure out which state I live in? Let's just say I'm Rich's neighbor. My friend Carlos Mencia has three words for you!

No habla ingles? :D

Not sure how it's spelled, but "Do do do."

I believe that Welmer probably is done in the NCAA tournament and not because I don't like him or I am jealous of him. Just look at past history.

Mark, your statement above is very true, but only 3 officials worked in the sweet 16 or elite 8 in 2006 who did not work two games on the first weekend. They were Bryan Kersey, Hal Lusk, and John Hughes which is only 8.3% of officials assigned to the 2nd weekend.

Also look at the fact that Welmer only had one game in last year's tournament and has never advanced to the Final Four.

BTW Hughes, Kersey, and Lusk all worked 1st and 2nd round games this year.

Whew - thats a relief. I was beginning to think he was someone else for a minute.

No, it's really him. Though he may be wearing somebody else's pants. :D

Everyone who worked last night worked a 1st and 2nd round game. I expect the same tonight. Expect Kersey, Lusk, Hillary, O'Neill, Corbett and others.

Not hating...just facts. Just because Kelley and Falk give this guy a ton of games, he really isn't much better than the averageg official. He can't run, mechanics are horrible, and play calling is suspect. He gets so many games because of his relationship with the supervisors. If he was so good, he would advance further than what he does. The man works over 100 plus games, but crunch time in the tourney, where is he? I don't work the NCAA either, but neither do I have Kelley and Falk in my pocket.

If he was evaluated like everyone else, he would not work as much as he does...that is why the he doesn't advance. It has nothing to do with whether or not he is a nice guy...he is a very nice guy and tells great jokes at camp. However, honestly break down a tape of his and critique objectively and you will see the facts speak for themselves.

Which brings another question: why is it okay and acceptable for veterans to do WHATEVER they want when it comes to mechanics and the like? Are they bigger than the game? I relate this to police officers breaking a law because they feel like they can.

Stupid monkeys.

Kinda amazing what they can do though if you put thousands of them in a room and give 'em all typewriters.

I was just thinking the same thing like 10 seconds ago.

Quick refresher. Earlier this week, the follwing post was made:

Followed by my response:

Then, there was a response to Triggers original post which said:

To which I said:

Sooooooooo, in just a couple more hours, I should know if I have a couple new vacation homes. :D

You all can send me the deeds!!

He could have been selected for a regional final. You won't be able to collect on the bet until Sunday night.

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Well, a regional final has come and gone and Welmer is at home like the rest of us...hum.

Welmer's deepest advancements 1998-2007

98 - Regional Semi (Kentucky over UCLA)
99 - 2nd Round (Florida over Weber St.)
00 - Regional Semi (Oklahoma St. over Seton Hall)
01 - 2nd Round (UCLA over Utah St.)
02 - Regional Semi (Maryland over Kentucky)
03 - 2nd Round (Auburn over Wake Forest)
04 - Regional Semi (St. Joseph's over Wake Forest)
05 - Regional Semi (Kentucky over Utah)
06 - 1st Round (Washington over Utah St.)
07 - 1st Round (North Carolina over E. Kentucky)

Regardless of your feelings about his officiating, Welmer was essentially pegged as a Round of 32/Sweet 16 official, but his standing has appeared to slip in the last couple of years.

I'm gonna bet there are people reading this site and posting to this thread that would trade just about anything to say they have worked the Division 1 tournament ten straight years. I GUARANTEE you would all take even 25% of his schedule.

Anyone this worried about Steve Welmer is focusing on the wrong thing.
They should really be focusing on their significant case of cranial rectitus!!

Move on.

Oh TRIGGGGGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! RICHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Where ARE you???

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My info was for informational purposes only. Wouldn't we all like Welmer's schedule? Yes.

People were talking about it. I responded with info and an observation that a trained monkey could make looking at that info. You know, official forums sometimes talk about basketball officials. I happen to have the lists of officials for the last 10 years of the tourney, and thought it was relevant to the discussion. Sorry to have offended your sensibilities.

Even I am ready to end this discussion and that is really saying a lot.

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