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RefAHallic Fri Mar 16, 2007 01:43pm
SEC Officials
 
I apologize if you guys have read this. I just found it and thought I would share it.

http://www.gatorsports.com/apps/pbcs...RS02/703090311

MajorCord Fri Mar 16, 2007 02:42pm
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Originally Posted by RefAHallic
I apologize if you guys have read this. I just found it and thought I would share it.

http://www.gatorsports.com/apps/pbcs...RS02/703090311

:) Interesting article. Thanks for posting.

Mark Dexter Fri Mar 16, 2007 09:19pm
I'm shocked that the "magic number" is SEVEN. In HS ball, the most I've worked any one team during a season has been 3 games (the third one of which ended up being a disaster). Even in intramurals, I don't think I've ever seen a time more than 5 or 6 times a season.

Also, I'm wondering how they found out the amount of the officials' game checks. Is tht covered by FOIA in Florida, perhaps?

tomegun Fri Mar 16, 2007 09:26pm
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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
I'm shocked that the "magic number" is SEVEN. In HS ball, the most I've worked any one team during a season has been 3 games (the third one of which ended up being a disaster). Even in intramurals, I don't think I've ever seen a time more than 5 or 6 times a season.

Also, I'm wondering how they found out the amount of the officials' game checks. Is tht covered by FOIA in Florida, perhaps?
I think the game fees are close to accurate, but the amount of games they talked about working was :rolleyes:

biz Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:27pm
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Originally Posted by tomegun
I think the game fees are close to accurate, but the amount of games they talked about working was :rolleyes:
Tomegun...could you eleborate on what you mean? I'm just not getting what you're saying here...I'm probably being dense, but if you could help me out it would be appreciated.

tomegun Sun Mar 18, 2007 08:36am
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Tomegun...could you eleborate on what you mean? I'm just not getting what you're saying here...I'm probably being dense, but if you could help me out it would be appreciated.
The article mentioned Ted Valentine doing 70 games - or maybe it said more than 70 games. I think he does considerably more than that. Maybe not the 120 Welmer does, but more than 70.

MJT Sun Mar 18, 2007 09:13am
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Originally Posted by tomegun
The article mentioned Ted Valentine doing 70 games - or maybe it said more than 70 games. I think he does considerably more than that. Maybe not the 120 Welmer does, but more than 70.
Look at this. http://www.mapbuilder.net/users/UncleLar/35682 It appears he is at around 80 around March 10th.

biz Mon Mar 19, 2007 07:02am
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Originally Posted by tomegun
The article mentioned Ted Valentine doing 70 games - or maybe it said more than 70 games. I think he does considerably more than that. Maybe not the 120 Welmer does, but more than 70.
Always getting that shot in on Welmer...I love it:D

Now I get what you're saying. Teddy V does do a ton of games, but I feel like he does fewer games than he used to. What conferences does he work now? Definitely SEC and ACC. Does he still do Big 10? I haven't seen him do any Big 12 or Big East games in the last few years.

tomegun Mon Mar 19, 2007 07:24am
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Originally Posted by biz
Always getting that shot in on Welmer...I love it:D

Now I get what you're saying. Teddy V does do a ton of games, but I feel like he does fewer games than he used to. What conferences does he work now? Definitely SEC and ACC. Does he still do Big 10? I haven't seen him do any Big 12 or Big East games in the last few years.
That wasn't a shot on Welmer. If he can do 120 then do 120; that has nothing to do with his officiating (style?).

Teddy is in the Big 10. I'm not sure about the others.

Raymond Mon Mar 19, 2007 08:22am
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Originally Posted by tomegun
That wasn't a shot on Welmer. If he can do 120 then do 120; that has nothing to do with his officiating (style?).

Teddy is in the Big 10. I'm not sure about the others.
SEC & ACC definitely. He was also working games in the Southern Conference post-season tourney.

tomegun Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
SEC & ACC definitely. He was also working games in the Southern Conference post-season tourney.
Makes sense. He is an evaluator at Mr. Burch's camp so I wouldn't doubt him doing a couple games in the Southern Conference.

RefAHallic Mon Mar 19, 2007 02:41pm
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Whenever I see Welmer on tv I'm just amazed. There seems to be no shortage of conferences that he works - Big XII, Big 10, CUSA, Sunbelt - what else? How old is he?

muxbule Mon Mar 19, 2007 08:10pm
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How old is he?
He is 51 years old.

Jesse James Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:41pm
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He is 51 years old.
Welmer graduated from high school (Columbus, In.) in 1968, and I don't think he was dominating in the post as a 12 year-old senior. He's around 57, give or take a year.

muxbule Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:33am
JJ, thanks for correcting my error. I pulled it from an old article on Yahoo that I thought was current talking about how many games is too many for officials. With Bobby Knight making this an issue I assumed (bad thing always) I was reading from current material.


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