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Mountaineer Wed Mar 14, 2007 09:35pm

Huntington HS state tourney run
 
In case anyone is interested, my company produces the state high school basketball tournaments on radio and tv in WV. You can listen to all the games on the net if you are interested. Huntington will play on Friday and "IF" they win will play on Saturday at 7:00.

The address is www.wvstatetournament.com

We have live scoring and of course the play-by-play as well. We also produce the AAA championship game live on TV. If you tune in, drop me a note here and let me know what you think of the broadcast.

Nevadaref Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:20pm

Is the pot-carrying thug going to play? If so, then I'm not watching. :p

Mountaineer Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:48pm

I really don't think he had the pot - from what I have learned, he really was in the wrong place/wrong time. I do agree with the thug thing though.

Yes, he's playing.

Mountaineer Sat Mar 17, 2007 09:25pm

Wow
 
http://www.wvstatetournament.com/bbb07/photos/16-1.jpg

Well, HHS won their 3rd title in a row - a record for AAA schools in WV. Yesterday, OJ was named the USA Today Punk errr Player of the Year. In tonight's game he put the crowning achievement on his career. With just about a minute to go and HHS up roughly 30 pts - OJ steals a pass in the open and from about half court tosses the ball to the backboard, catches it and crushes a dunk. Very nice touch and VERY pretty dunk! Then he did it - he picked up the ball and threw it into the Huntington student section! The official immediately called a T and OJ proceeded to walk around holding up three fingers for their championships.

For those keeping score at home: he bumped an official, was charged with possession - which was later dropped, and then tonight. I'm not sure how it works phonetically, but OJ USC NBA somehow spells "train wreck".

Here's an interesting question that a fellow official and I had on the way home: do you whack him for tossing the ball into the stands - or issue a delay of game warning? AND do you whack him (and possibly eject if you gave him one for the ball heave) for circling the court with his fingers raised for taunting? The coach was already taking him out of the game - but wonder what everyone here would have done.

I'm sure there's video of the dunk that will be posted eventually. Here's a link from our website about the game: http://www.wvmetronews.com/index_for...&storyid=18724

On a side-note, Chris Early - heading to Oklahoma on a bball scholarship - scored ZERO points and grabbed 3 rebounds in the game and made the all-tournament team. SHEEEEEESH!

26 Year Gap Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:08pm

That's worthy of 4 FTs.

BktBallRef Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:15pm

He thinks he's bigger than the game. :(

That's completely unsporting and flagrant. One flagrant T would be all I would have needed.

canuckrefguy Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:27pm

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Originally Posted by Mountaineer
http://www.wvstatetournament.com/bbb07/photos/16-1.jpg

Well, HHS won their 3rd title in a row - a record for AAA schools in WV. Yesterday, OJ was named the USA Today Punk errr Player of the Year. In tonight's game he put the crowning achievement on his career. With just about a minute to go and HHS up roughly 30 pts - OJ steals a pass in the open and from about half court tosses the ball to the backboard, catches it and crushes a dunk. Very nice touch and VERY pretty dunk! Then he did it - he picked up the ball and threw it into the Huntington student section! The official immediately called a T and OJ proceeded to walk around holding up three fingers for their championships.

What a class act.

More kids should be like him. :rolleyes:

MJT Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:29pm

He's gone!!!

FB/BBOfficial Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:27am

Class ACT
 
I'm originally from Wheeling WV, station at Altus AFB OK. I keep up with my old high school Wheeling Central. If you what to see a class act watch them play. I know it's a different sport but they won their third state football crown this past year. After the game they did not point fingers jump up in down in the face of their opponent. What they did do is go over shake hands and picked player that were upset off the ground. Now that's a Class Act. I think Huntington can learn from a small single A school. :cool:

By the way what was he doing in the game with that little time left in the game? The coach should have the rest of his subs in they could say the played in the State Championship game. Like Charleston Catholic did against BD earlier in the day.

grunewar Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:14am

It's certainly going to be interesting to watch OJ over the next few yrs to see who he turns out like.....Randy Moss? TO? Ron Artest? Rasheed Wallace? Tank Johnson? or, g_d help us, maybe he matures, learns from his mistakes and becomes a model citizen.

And he is one injury (Sean Livingston) away from not having any of it and having to rely on what???

Mountaineer Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:38am

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Originally Posted by FB/BBOfficial
I'm originally from Wheeling WV, station at Altus AFB OK. I keep up with my old high school Wheeling Central. If you what to see a class act watch them play. I know it's a different sport but they won their third state football crown this past year. After the game they did not point fingers jump up in down in the face of their opponent. What they did do is go over shake hands and picked player that were upset off the ground. Now that's a Class Act. I think Huntington can learn from a small single A school. :cool:

By the way what was he doing in the game with that little time left in the game? The coach should have the rest of his subs in they could say the played in the State Championship game. Like Charleston Catholic did against BD earlier in the day.

This was like the first year in the last 15 that WCC didn't make it to Charleston for BBall. I have a client whose son is the quaterback for WCC and is on the BBall team. He was no doubt disappointed. McGuffin had a sub at the table for OJ - I think they were hoping to get him on a leak-out like this. He was cherry picking for this one and it paid off for him!

Although I hate to burst your bubble, I do have a picture of WCC from LAST year's (2005) championship celebration and they are raising their finger in celebration. I see nothing wrong with that personally - as long as you don't belittle the other team. OJ strutted the court holding up 3 fingers - a little over the top for me.

Glad to see someone else from WV on here!

Mark Dexter Sun Mar 18, 2007 02:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mountaineer
Here's an interesting question that a fellow official and I had on the way home: do you whack him for tossing the ball into the stands - or issue a delay of game warning? AND do you whack him (and possibly eject if you gave him one for the ball heave) for circling the court with his fingers raised for taunting? The coach was already taking him out of the game - but wonder what everyone here would have done.

Here's what I have:
1. Delay warning for interfering with the ball after a goal.
2. T for unsporting behavior for throwing the ball into the stands (possibly flagrant - I think I'd want to see it first.)
3. T for unsporting behavior for taunting the crowd by raising the 3 fingers.

Raymond Sun Mar 18, 2007 05:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by FB/BBOfficial
... station at Altus AFB OK...

My condolenses. :p

BktBallRef Sun Mar 18, 2007 06:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mountaineer
Although I hate to burst your bubble, I do have a picture of WCC from LAST year's (2005) championship celebration and they are raising their finger in celebration.

Perhaps you should re-read what he said.

"After the game they did not point fingers jump up in down in the face of their opponent."

DC_Ref12 Sun Mar 18, 2007 07:28pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
Here's what I have:

3. T for unsporting behavior for taunting the crowd by raising the 3 fingers.

Interesting. Do you think that Illinois player should have gotten T'ed up for the muscle flex he did after that dunk after that spin-move carry that wasn't called?

Jurassic Referee Sun Mar 18, 2007 07:38pm

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Originally Posted by DC_Ref12
Interesting. Do you think that Illinois player should have gotten T'ed up for the muscle flex he did after that dunk after that spin-move carry that wasn't called?

Whatintheheck has something that happened in an NCAA game got to do with an incident in a high school game? :confused: They're completely different rulesets.

stmaryrams Sun Mar 18, 2007 08:26pm

Well I'd say he's no Jon Diebler

DC_Ref12 Sun Mar 18, 2007 08:28pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Whatintheheck has something that happened in an NCAA game got to do with an incident in a high school game? :confused: They're completely different rulesets.

I'm just wondering if the two might be comparable. I was kind of surprised the Illinois player wasn't called for something, but maybe what you're saying is that they're more lenient on showmanship in college?

Thanks.

Mountaineer Sun Mar 18, 2007 09:29pm

There is video of the incident. Here's a link to a local TV station that did sort of a highlight reel of the championship game. The play-in-question is at the end of course. On my computer the thing bogs down due to the buffering taking so long - hopefully you won't have the same gremlins that I have in my computer! Let me know what you think.

http://www.wsaz.com/sports/headlines/6555882.html

Click on the HHS wins AAA Title line . . . enjoy!

Mark Dexter Mon Mar 19, 2007 08:43am

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Originally Posted by DC_Ref12
Interesting. Do you think that Illinois player should have gotten T'ed up for the muscle flex he did after that dunk after that spin-move carry that wasn't called?

Didn't see the Illinois game, so I can't be sure.

That said, I think there's a big difference between a simple muscle flex (which, granted, could very well be taunting) and "circling the court" showing the 'three-peat' sign.

Mark Dexter Mon Mar 19, 2007 08:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mountaineer
There is video of the incident. Here's a link to a local TV station that did sort of a highlight reel of the championship game. The play-in-question is at the end of course. On my computer the thing bogs down due to the buffering taking so long - hopefully you won't have the same gremlins that I have in my computer! Let me know what you think.

http://www.wsaz.com/sports/headlines/6555882.html

Click on the HHS wins AAA Title line . . . enjoy!

Hard to say whether I'd call a flagrant or regular T on the throw into the stands - the damn cheerleader gets in the way right at the most important point.

DC_Ref12 Mon Mar 19, 2007 08:52am

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
Didn't see the Illinois game, so I can't be sure.

That said, I think there's a big difference between a simple muscle flex (which, granted, could very well be taunting) and "circling the court" showing the 'three-peat' sign.

Here it is, at about the :29 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t1ZzroeEeI

It looks a little less showy watching it over again, I think I was a bit influenced by the slow-mo replay I kept seeing over and over again on the highlights. Notice the borderline carry as he spins into the lane, as well.

Thoughts?

Mark Dexter Mon Mar 19, 2007 09:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC_Ref12
Here it is, at about the :29 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t1ZzroeEeI

It looks a little less showy watching it over again, I think I was a bit influenced by the slow-mo replay I kept seeing over and over again on the highlights. Notice the borderline carry as he spins into the lane, as well.

Thoughts?

I think I'd just tell him to knock it off. While it's a bit showy, I don't think it's taunting or offensive, and there's certainly much worse out there that's not being called.

JRutledge Mon Mar 19, 2007 05:12pm

Derrick Rose is a class act.
 
On the flip side. The #2 ranked kid in the country played in the IHSA Boy's Championship and scored 2 points, had 9 assists and dominated the game by giving the ball to others to shine and did not score once from the field. He realized he was not hot and passed the ball to create opportunities, took a charge and many defensive plays. I do not think I have ever seen a player at the HS level only score 2 points (1 point by the beginning of the 4th Quarter) and completely dominated a game.

When it was clear that Simeon (Chicago) was going to their second Class AA Championship in back to back years, Rose was removed from the game and was given a standing ovation. Then he thanked the crowd by waving and hugged his teammates and fellow seniors. He was a class kid throught the tournament and dominated just about every game he played in.

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