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mjbofficial Sat Mar 10, 2007 05:11pm

Illinois/Wisconsin - Big Ten refs
 
I don't know what Rich Falk tells his officials, but BT games are the most poorly called games in the country.

Today - all 3 refs missed an OBVIOUS goaltend. An Illinois player shot a jumper that hit off the backboard AND was on the way down and a Wisonsin player swatted it away and none of the refs called anything.

Just absurd. This type of thing isn't an isolated incident either.

TRef21 Sat Mar 10, 2007 05:27pm

Someone has to tell Billy Packer to shut up. He doesn't know squat about officiating. I must say that was a goaltend though.

Jurassic Referee Sat Mar 10, 2007 05:40pm

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Originally Posted by mjbofficial
I don't know what Rich Falk tells his officials, but BT games are the most poorly called games in the country.

Just absurd. This type of thing isn't an isolated incident either.

And you know all this from your vast amount of officiating knowledge and experience, right? Or maybe you know it from your vast amount of time spent sitting on the couch yelling at the officials instead?

Or am I confusing you with some other first-year ref who has got absolutely no clue what it takes to officiate at that level but that still doesn't stop him from dumping on the complete officiating staff of a major D1 conference?

Yup, it's that time of the year.......freaking fanboys who think they know everything....:rolleyes:

mjbofficial Sat Mar 10, 2007 05:54pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
And you know all this from your vast amount of officiating knowledge and experience, right? Or maybe you know it from your vast amount of time spent sitting on the couch yelling at the officials instead?

Or am I confusing you with some other first-year ref who has got absolutely no clue what it takes to officiate at that level but that still doesn't stop him from dumping on the complete officiating staff of a major D1 conference?

Yup, it's that time of the year.......freaking fanboys who think they know everything....:rolleyes:

Way to throw out the personal insults...since you know me so well.

Jurassic Referee Sat Mar 10, 2007 06:25pm

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Originally Posted by mjbofficial
Way to throw out the personal insults...since you know me so well.

Let me see if I got this right. It's OK for <b>you</b> to make personal insults against <b>every</b> single official on the Big Ten staff, but <b>you</b> really don't think it's nice when somebody does the exact same thing to you? Do I also take it that you knew <b>EVERY</b> official on the Big Ten staff much better than I knew you when you insulted them also? Or does "knowing someone well" only come into play when someone is insulting you and not when </b>you</b> are insulting someone else--i.e. a complete officiating staff?

Btw, I did have something right, don't I? You just finished your first year of officiating, right? That certainly gives you the experience and knowledge necessary to judge a complete D1 staff like you did above.

Rich Sat Mar 10, 2007 06:25pm

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Originally Posted by mjbofficial
I don't know what Rich Falk tells his officials, but BT games are the most poorly called games in the country.

Today - all 3 refs missed an OBVIOUS goaltend. An Illinois player shot a jumper that hit off the backboard AND was on the way down and a Wisonsin player swatted it away and none of the refs called anything.

Just absurd. This type of thing isn't an isolated incident either.

Find one play and try to turn it into a complete generalization.

I could do the same thing.

"Just watching the Big 12 game and saw 12 fouls called in the first 6 minutes of the second half. Annoucer-moron is fawning over the refs for "taking control" of a game one could argue didn't need it. Player picks up fourth foul in the first minute of the second half on what could be called a "weak" illegal screen."

What's the point?

eg-italy Sat Mar 10, 2007 06:50pm

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Originally Posted by mjbofficial
I don't know what Rich Falk tells his officials, but BT games are the most poorly called games in the country.

Today - all 3 refs missed an OBVIOUS goaltend. An Illinois player shot a jumper that hit off the backboard AND was on the way down and a Wisonsin player swatted it away and none of the refs called anything.

Just absurd. This type of thing isn't an isolated incident either.

Wow, refs making mistakes!

FYI, refs make mistakes in every game of every league in every country. I would be very cautious before judging officiating quality from a single missed call in a game.

Some years ago, the chief instructor here in Italy said that, when somebody was saying that officiating in a game had been bad, he asked them to mention three big mistakes. Usually they mentioned one or two, adding something like your "not an isolated incident either".

I was in the US two years ago, in full March madness, visiting a colleague and big Iowa fan. I could see five Iowa games with him and some others on TV at night. I couldn't notice poor officiating in Big Ten, compared to that of other conferences. What I saw were good officials, IMO.

When you criticize officiating, be precise and detailed. Or shut up.

JRutledge Sun Mar 11, 2007 02:59am

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Originally Posted by mjbofficial
I don't know what Rich Falk tells his officials, but BT games are the most poorly called games in the country.

Today - all 3 refs missed an OBVIOUS goaltend. An Illinois player shot a jumper that hit off the backboard AND was on the way down and a Wisonsin player swatted it away and none of the refs called anything.

Just absurd. This type of thing isn't an isolated incident either.

What is absurd is you actually think all 3 officials watch for this. Secondly I was in the United Center and that was a very tough call. It was hard to tell in real time whether that was actually the right or wrong call. Now maybe you were sitting in the luxury of your living room, but try to get that call when players can jump out of the gym and are some of the best athletes all of college basketball. Not only did they have one tough call, they had about 3 GT calls that were tough.

Also for the record, the officials that worked in the Big Ten are not just Big Ten officials. They work in multiple conferences and many of the officials worked semi-final and championship tournament games in other conferences earlier in the week. Also many have gone deep into the NCAA Tournament in the past. The problem is Big Ten fans are some of the dumbest by the things they complain about. I have been attending the Big Ten tournament for years and the things fans come up with are just hilarious. They want fouls for things that create no advantage or when players are just doing their jobs.

Peace

grunewar Sun Mar 11, 2007 09:15am

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Originally Posted by mjbofficial
Today - all 3 refs missed an OBVIOUS goaltend.

Why would all 3 refs have their eyes on the ball? cmon!

BktBallRef Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:15am

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Originally Posted by mjbofficial
I don't know what Rich Falk tells his officials, but BT games are the most poorly called games in the country.

Today - all 3 refs missed an OBVIOUS goaltend. An Illinois player shot a jumper that hit off the backboard AND was on the way down and a Wisonsin player swatted it away and none of the refs called anything.

Which D-1 conference tournament did you work this week? Where are your first round NCAA games? Do you anticipate getting a Final Four assignment this year?

BTW, you want to take cheap shots at offiicals? You'll soon find out that doesn't fly on this site, fanboy.


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