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Originally posted by ChuckElias

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Originally posted by Oz Referee
Under FIBA a player control foul is signalled with one extended arm parallel to the ground, with the hand making a fist, point towards the offending team's offensive basket.

Why would you point your fist toward the offended team's offensive basket? In most cases, that will be the direction in which the offensive player was just moving. Couldn't that be very confusing? It would look like you were signaling the ball to "stay here".

Around here, after giving the PC signal, we indicate that the ball will be going "the other way"; that is, we point toward the offending team's defensive basket. (Or toward the offended team's offensive basket. :) )

Chuck

Sorry Chuck, I should have been more specific.

Say player sets an illegal screen, the correct mechanics for calling and reporting the foul would be:

1. Whistle, left arm straight up with clenched fist, right arm pointing roughly at offending player's feet, fingers out, palm down.

2. Signal "block" and then offensive foul (as stated in previous post)

3. Walk to bench.

4. Indicate colour of offending team (verbally and point to bench)

5. Signal number of player (verbally & with hands)

6. Signal block, and then ofensive foul (fist out, parallel to ground, pointing at their offensive basket). At same time say "Team Control".

7. Indicate point of throw in, and say colour of team that gets the ball.

8. Any subs.

9. Any time outs.

Hope this clears it up.

We're not talking about an illegal screen. We're talking about a player control foul.

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
We're not talking about an illegal screen. We're talking about a player control foul.

The same mechanics apply for any offensive foul. The FIBA signal for a charge (which i assume is what you are callng a player control foul) is right fist "punching" through left palm.

If a charge is not what you are talking about - what is an example of a player control foul?

A player control foul is a foul committed by a player who has player control of the ball. We never shoot FTs for a PC foul.

A foul by an offensive player who doesn't have the ball is treated the same as a foul by a defender. It's simply a common foul.

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
A player control foul is a foul committed by a player who has player control of the ball. We never shoot FTs for a PC foul.

A foul by an offensive player who doesn't have the ball is treated the same as a foul by a defender. It's simply a common foul.

OK, we never shoot free throws for any offensive foul (assuming it is a common foul). Do you shoot free throws for offensive fouls that aren't PC? Like illegal screens for example?

Yes. As I said earlier, there's no diffence in a foul by an offensive player. It's simply a common foul. If the offended team is in the bonus, they shoot, if not, they don't.

FIBA handles the situation the same way the NBA does.

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
Yes. As I said earlier, there's no diffence in a foul by an offensive player. It's simply a common foul. If the offended team is in the bonus, they shoot, if not, they don't.

FIBA handles the situation the same way the NBA does.

Interestingly, NCAA is using this as one of its experimental rules for the early-season tourney games. If I had to guess, I'd say that it will probably become the norm in a year or 2.

Chuck