The officials "absolutely [expletive] cheated us"
 

The quote in the title is taken from a Buffalo News story about last night's Bowling Green-Buffalo game (the link is below). The Bowling Green coach was angry about the "flaky finish" (that's from the headline of the story). While it was a strange ending, I think the problem was caused by how the coach handled the situation.

In case the link doesn't work, here's a summary: the horn sounded to "end" the game and the BG team left the floor thinking it had won by two. The officials met and put time back on the clock while the Falcons were in the locker room. As the Falcons didn't get back to the floor in a reasonable time, BG was assessed a technical and Buffalo tied the score to put the game into overtime. Buffalo won in OT.

It seems to me a coach should know better than to have his team leave the floor in this way. Wouldn't (or shouldn't) a coach know that the officials can look at the TV monitors to determine if the game was over? In my view, this one is on the coach.

I'm not a referee; I post here occasionally because I keep the scorebook for a college team in New York State (it's not in Buffalo; that's several hours from here). Sometimes I ask questions here about scorebook issues and look for other discussions related to keeping score. I would, however, be interested in thoughts anyone has about last night's BG-UB game. Here's the link: I hope it works.

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial...14/1007863.asp

Go away to a fan website. Then you can discuss this with them. Personally I do not care what happen in some game on the east coast. :p

Peace

Dan Dakish, isn't he a Bobby K disciple?

Comical, you are never going to find out what the <b>true</b> story was unless you hear it from either one of the officials, or from something that is issued by their league or officials supervisor. All you will get is conjecture, and depending on the side, the officials were either great or terrible.

Iow, same old, same old.

Well, I care about what happens in a game on the east coast, although I'm not sure Buffalo qualifies. Unless we're talking about the east coast of Lake Erie.

Anyways...

The only 1 who "took that away from the kids" is the coach, who decided he might be able to sneak out of town with the win before anyone noticed.

Let's face it, all he needed to do was dress 5 players and send them back up for the final throw-in.

Rut:

Buffalo is not in the East Coast, it is on the North Coast. :) and only about five (5) hours from Toledo and Bowling Green.

MTD, Sr.

The game description in The (Toledo) Blade does not talk a shot clock violation the that Buffalo paper mentions, but the local cable sports news channel will no doubt show the game on a delayed broadcast in the next couple of days and I will watch the game and report back to the group.

MTD, Sr.

P.S. Bowling Green, Ohio and BGSU is just 25 miles south of Toledo on I-75 and yes we have been under a winter storm warning and blizzard warning for over 24 hours.

One other bit of information, Dakich is a Bobby Knight hot-head, so I am not suprised at his outburst. He always thinks the officials are out to get him.

MTD, Sr.

Let it go. It was a joke and said very much tongue and cheek.

BTW, it is "east coast" to those that live here. It might not be considered that in reality, but people not from there would call it the "east coast" unless you have roots there. Just like everyone thinks anyone from Illinois (that does not live in the Midwest) lives close to Chicago or asks that question when you tell them what state you are from. Buffalo is in New York State right? New York State is on the Atlantic Ocean right? ;)

Peace

Why is a coach and team leaving before the officials do? To me that's just stupid!! Their jurisdiction has not ended yet. I agree that the coach was trying to sneak away with a win he knew he didn't have in the bag.

In Cleveland they call it the North Coast of America! Back me up on this Ignats75

Rut:

The east end of New York maybe on the Atlantic coast, but Buffalo is on Lake Erie, a far cry from the Atlantic Ocean. I hope you aren't a geography teacher.

MTD, Sr.

I live in Toledo on Lake Erie and grew up in Youngstown, Ohio, and Lake Erie is the North Coast of America.

MTD, Sr.

Thats like The "C" positioned in the "L".. LOL NYC is off the Atlantic, or my home place of Longgggg IIIIsland. LOL

I can tell you are from Ohio. Multi-layered thought is hard for you. ;)

Peace

I have your back.

Ignats75 from the snowy and cold North Coast:cool:

Did you hear about the guy that moved from Ohio to Illinois?

He raised the IQ of two states.

Yup, here too! In fact, even where you are might be considered by some to be the East Coast, Jeff.

I don't get it.

Try moving to Ohio. That'll work too.

Rut:

I know you admire Bo, but just remember: Ohio State-42, Michigan-39.

Happy Valentine's Day

MTD, Sr.

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Very true. Referees usually get off the floor as fast as possible. If I was coaching, and noticed the officials were still around, I think I would know something was up.

I will put it to you this way. How many Ohio State Grads cannot read?

Peace.

The MAC has supported the officials for their handling of the end of the game; Dakich was reprimanded for his comments. Below is a link to the ESPN.com story.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/s...e=NCBHeadlines

Thanks for the update. Appreciated.

Thanks to everyone here for the comments (and the geography lesson) ;) .

Rut:

Everybody knows my propensity to beat a dead horse, but by your logic of Buffalo being on the east coast because New York State is on the Atllantic Ocean is like saying Pittsburgh is on the east coast because Pennsylvania is on the Atlantic Ocean. :D

And far fewer OSU grads cannot read that UM grads.

Of course everybody in Ohio knows how to find UM, go north until you smell it, then west until you step in it.

I am done beating this dead horse.

But one other thing, Rut, the last two quarters of the Rose Bowl and the last three quarters of the BCS Bowl were five of the worst quarters of bowl play that I had seen OSU and UM play, and I always route for the Big 10 during the bowl games. I really felt bad for the UM players, because I really thought that their overall season was more indicative of their team than the Rose Bowl. And as a YSU grad, Jim Tressel's teams rarely get beat like they did to Florida. Just a bad night for both teams.

Rut, have a good remainder of your basketball winter season.

MTD, Sr.

Mark,

The only thing standing between your statement and the truth are the state of New Jersey, the Delaware River and Bay.

A better analogy is to claim San Francisco is a US/Mexico border town because California is on the US/Mexican border.

(Just thought I would give the old mare 1 last kick myself :) )

Dan:

I like your analogy, but where the Philadelphia Naval Yard located.

MTD, Sr.

"The Navy Yard is a 1,200-acre development located along 7 miles of historic waterfront at the confluence of the Schuylkill and Delaware Rivers..." according to this:

http://www.navyyard.org/MainMenu.html

Saying The Philly Navy Yard is on the Atlantic because it's on the Delaware River is like saying Minneapolis is on the Gulf of Mexico.

:D

It's all "back east" to me.

ROFLMAO!!:D :D

MTD, Sr.

Daryl “The Preacher” Long and I officiated together yesterday afternoon, and during our drive to our game we discussed the BGSU-UB men’s game played at UB. Daryl had seen an official MAC film of the play and Dakich (BGSU’s men’s coach) cost his team the game.

BGSU and the ball and a two (2) point lead with just about 45 seconds in the game. UB stole the ball with approximately 37 to 38 seconds left in the game. UB-1 attempted a jumper as the clock was winding down that missed the rim after the shot clock horn had sounded. Because of the differential between the shot clock and the game clock, the officials determined that BGSU would get the ball for a throw-in with 0.6 seconds on the game clock. But Dakich and his team left the court immediately instead of waiting at their bench for the officials’ ruling. The MAC ruled that the officials were correct in their game ending procedure to put 0.6 second on the game clock and to give the ball to BGSU for a throw-in. The officials were also correct to charge BGSU a technical foul for delay of game for leaving the court and delaying the restart of the game with 0.6 seconds

MTD, Sr.

Probably before most of you were born, I moved from the Chicago area here to the Portland area. Around here, the natives refer to any place in the US east of the Cascade mountains as "back east". When I lived in Chicago, we never considered ourselves in the "east", but the "midwest". I still think it's weird every time I hear that reference.

You moved from Chicago to Portland in 1942? :eek: I was born in 1943.:)

When my Mom (from Norwalk, CA) was 18, she met my Dad (from Des Moines, IA). She had no idea where Iowa was, she'd never cared. All she knew was it was Back East somewhere.

Interesting. Des Moines is "back east", while Detroit is in the Western Conference of the NHL.

No wonder I'm always confused. :confused:

I live in Buffalo (sympathy cards can be sent to me at home...cash only). Buffalo is definitely not on the coast and New York isn't on the ocean, unless you count New York City and Long Island, which I don't.

I was at the game in question...UB had possession with 36.4 seconds on game clock. Missed shot at buzzer and game clock ran to 0. According to my eyes, and pretty much everyone else who has made a public statement, official signaled game over. BG ran off court, not bothering to shake hands as is customary (and a league requirement, I think). UB coach successfully argued that some time must remain, so officials put 0.6 back on clock. Official went to locker room to summon BG back on to court. After 10 minutes or so (with UB coach pushing the damn buzzer) officials assessed T for game delay. The rest is history...btw, the BG coach said he couldn't send players out in time because they were showering...don't know about you, but if I was properly motivated I could dry off and slip on a pair of shoes, shorts and shirt in about a minute...