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DC_Ref12 Sat Feb 10, 2007 04:17pm

Did I get it right? She only got one FT
 
This morning - girls game - middle of the first half, and Team A's coach has been barking at me and my parnter the whole time. His team is called for a 5-second OOB violation and he is furious and calls us both "complete morons" at the top of his lungs when I'm right next to him. *WHACK*

My partner goes to administer the FTs and mistakenly tells the players 1 FT (I wasn't paying close enough attention)....B1 misses the FT and my partner gives Team A the ball and they inbounds. At this point, I note to myself that she should get another FT. But he ball is in play now, Team A misses a shot at their goal, Team B rebounds, comes back down and makes a layup. I stop the clock and alert the benches that Team B has an unawarded FT.

B1 shoots her second FT, after which Team A gets the ball OOB under Team B's basket.

Did I make the right call? Should I have stopped the play as soon as the ball became live? Should I have waited for the next dead ball?

Thanks.

truerookie Sat Feb 10, 2007 04:32pm

1.) IMO, you handle it correctly by awarding B the second free throw lane cleared with A unrestricted throw in anywhere along the endline.

Jurassic Referee Sat Feb 10, 2007 06:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC_Ref12
My partner goes to administer the FTs and mistakenly tells the players 1 FT (I wasn't paying close enough attention)....B1 misses the FT and my partner gives Team A the ball and they inbounds. At this point, I note to myself that she should get another FT. But he ball is in play now, Team A misses a shot at their goal, Team B rebounds, comes back down and makes a layup. I stop the clock and alert the benches that Team B has an unawarded FT.

B1 shoots her second FT, after which Team A gets the ball OOB under Team B's basket.

1) Did I make the right call?
2) Should I have stopped the play as soon as the ball became live?
3)Should I have waited for the next dead ball?

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) No

You stop play as soon as you realize the FT shooter had another free throw coming. You then correct as long as you have stopped play within the prescribed time limits.

Good job.

wfd21 Sat Feb 10, 2007 07:10pm

Why did team "A "get the ball after 1st free throw? In either rule set, NCAA or NFHS "B" should have throw in from T in this situation.

Jurassic Referee Sat Feb 10, 2007 07:56pm

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Originally Posted by wfd21
Why did team "A "get the ball after 1st free throw? In either rule set, NCAA or NFHS "B" should have throw in from T in this situation.

In both rulesets you go to the POI after you correct the error. The POI when play was stopped was <b>after</b> team B had scored on the layup. Therefore the POI is team A's ball for an unrestricted endline throw-in after a made basket.

tjones1 Sat Feb 10, 2007 08:00pm

I think he's talking about after the first technical foul free throw, why was the other team given the ball for a throw in.

Jurassic Referee Sat Feb 10, 2007 08:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1
I think he's talking about after the first technical foul free throw, why was the other team given the ball for a throw in.

Oh, probably because the official screwed up....:)

WFD is right. Team B should have got the throw-in. Be that as it may though, giving the wrong team that throw-in isn't correctable after the throw-in was touched on the court. The failure to award the merited FT is correctable. And after you award the merited FT, you go to the POI, which is still an A endline throw-in.

wfd21 Sat Feb 10, 2007 08:56pm

Thanks JR, Thats what I ment, after the T. I agree you can not correct giving to the wrong team. Thanks

Texas Aggie Sat Feb 10, 2007 09:39pm

DC: file a report. There's no excuse for what the coach said to you. I probably would have tossed him for that.

DC_Ref12 Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:55pm

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Originally Posted by Texas Aggie
DC: file a report. There's no excuse for what the coach said to you. I probably would have tossed him for that.

Thanks for your help, guys. Yeah, 2 mess ups in that game, but I think we corrected it the best we could.

Unfortunately, this was just a church league game, so no one to formally complain to, although I will be talking to the organizers about his behavior. He evidently has a "history" of being a hot head.

Benchbum Sun Feb 11, 2007 02:47am

Why
 
DC_Ref12, my question to you is this. Why did only one ref administer the free throw? There is always supposed be two officials administering the free throws.

Jurassic Referee Sun Feb 11, 2007 04:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benchbum
DC_Ref12, my question to you is this. Why did only one ref administer the free throw? There is always supposed be two officials administering the free throws.

Technical foul. The T goes where he can administer maximum supervision of the other 9 players.

Nevadaref Mon Feb 12, 2007 01:27am

Sounds like the official who administered the FT watches too much NBA TV. :D

DC_Ref12 Mon Feb 12, 2007 08:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Sounds like the official who administered the FT watches too much NBA TV. :D

Yep...he even came over to me afterward and said "Got too much NBA on the brain..." :)


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