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curtstrouth Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:28pm

Travel or Not?
 
Player A1 has control of the ball and proceeds to go down to one knee before passing the ball. If he/she maintains the pivot foot, is this a travel?

tjones1 Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:30pm

If they are holding the ball, it's a travel. They aren't allowed to touch the floor with something other than a hand or foot. If they are dribbling, it's legal.

4.44.5 Situation C

Lotto Wed Feb 07, 2007 02:06pm

Legal in NCAA. A.R. 110 after Rule 4-66.5: "When a player falls to one knee while holding the ball, it is traveling if the pivot foot moves."

mfrech Wed Feb 07, 2007 06:09pm

Another traveling???
 
Can a player catch a pass and slide their feet to a stop? The floor was slick. I have asked several officials and get about 75% No that it is a traveling vioaltion and 25% yes they can slide.
Can a player slide on thefloor when diving for a ball, then why not on their feet?

Jurassic Referee Wed Feb 07, 2007 06:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfrech
Can a player catch a pass and slide their feet to a stop?

Technically, no. By common sense, if the floor is that bad, either "maybe" or "yes".

grunewar Wed Feb 07, 2007 06:52pm

Discretion. Our rec leagues traditionally have very slick floors in some of the cafeteria/gyms and we let a little slide - especially at the younger ages.

tjones1 Wed Feb 07, 2007 08:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfrech
Can a player slide on thefloor when diving for a ball, then why not on their feet?

Yes the player may slide. 4.44.5 Situation B

Nevadaref Wed Feb 07, 2007 08:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1
Yes the player may slide. 4.44.5 Situation B

Tanner, The OP is asking about a player who is standing on his feet. The Case Book play you referenced concerns a player who has dived to the floor and is on his stomach or back.

JR would tell you apples to oranges. ;)

tjones1 Wed Feb 07, 2007 09:08pm

True, but he also asked "can be slide on the floor while diving for the ball" -- yes. Then why not on their feet -- that's already been answered.

That's how I took it anyways..sorry for the confusion.

wildcatter Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by curtstrouth
Player A1 has control of the ball and proceeds to go down to one knee before passing the ball. If he/she maintains the pivot foot, is this a travel?

In high school yes (as said above. In the NCAA, it's not a travel.

4.66.5, NCAA:
A.R. 110. Is it traveling when a player (a) falls to the playing court while holding the ball; or (b) gains control of the ball while on the playing court and then, because of momentum, rolls or slides, after which the player passes or starts a dribble before getting to his or her feet? RULING: In (a), yes, because it is virtually impossible not to move the pivot foot when falling to the playing floor. In (b), no. The player may pass, shoot, start a dribble or call a timeout. Once the player has the ball and is no longer sliding, he or she may not roll over. When flat on his or her back, the player may sit up without violating. When the player puts the ball on the floor, then rises and is the first to touch the ball, it also is traveling. When a player rises to his or her feet while holding the ball, it is traveling. When a player falls to one knee while holding the ball, it is traveling if the pivot foot moves.

BktBallRef Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1
True, but he also asked "can be slide on the floor while diving for the ball" -- yes. Then why not on their feet -- that's already been answered.

That's how I took it anyways..sorry for the confusion.

You're not confused, the gambler is. :)


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